runDisney California - Paused! + Post IMTX thoughts

Jill Bartholomew (00:00)
Hi, welcome to episode six of the Be Fierce Multisport podcast. I'm your host Jill Bartholomew. And today we're going to be talking about Run Disney and the recent announcement that the Disneyland races are going to go on pause after 2026. So I'm here with two of my Run Disney buddies. We've known each other for like two years now, something like that.

Greg Hasler (00:24)
Mm-hmm. Yep.

Sharon Hamilton (00:24)
Might be three.

It's been a while. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (00:26)
Might be three, might be three

and probably longer because we've like bumped into each other, you know, and not known each other. we're all like the, the keep to yourselves until someone tells you that you shouldn't do that kind of people. So I'm here today, ⁓ with Sharon Hamilton and Greg Hassler. why don't you both, ⁓ kind of introduce yourself and give us a little bit of background.

Sharon Hamilton (00:46)
I'm Sharon Hamilton and I am a mom and I live in the DC area and I started doing Run Disney, probably pretty close to when I met you Jill, like three or four years ago. Yeah. I started in 22. So not that long ago in Run Disney. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (01:00)
Really?

Yeah.

I've definitely run into some run Disney people who have done every single event since it started.

Sharon Hamilton (01:11)
Mm-hmm.

I've probably done almost every single event since I started, but that's not since it started.

Jill Bartholomew (01:19)
Same. Same. I think it

started like 20 years before either one of us started. Yeah. And Greg, little bit about yourself.

Sharon Hamilton (01:25)
I think that's true. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (01:30)
Yeah,

so I'm Greg. I live in San Francisco. I'm the West Coast compatriot here and I've been doing run Disney regularly since 2019. That's when I started with the Star Wars run, I think, but I did do two run Disney's back in 2011, but wasn't quite. I did it long ago. I did a coast to coast. I did a coast to coast. I did the half.

Sharon Hamilton (01:32)
What the?

Jill Bartholomew (01:51)
I would say you're the veteran amongst us.

Greg Hasler (01:58)
Marathon weekend and then the Disneyland half in September was my original. I loved it, but for some reason I didn't keep with it until I came back in 19.

Jill Bartholomew (02:03)
Nice.

Sharon Hamilton (02:04)
Mm hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (02:09)
Yeah, did my first run Disney race was marathon weekend. I think it was 2019 or 2020. did the, was also my first half marathon. I did, I did the only the half marathon at that weekend and I had.

Sharon Hamilton (02:21)
Wow.

huh.

Jill Bartholomew (02:26)
You know, kind of, I was recently divorced, um, you know, had gotten into running as like a, I lost a bunch of weight post divorce. Um, how do I meet new friends where like our social circles are never going to intersect and like running was it. And I'm like, Hey, it's a cheap sport. You know, let's just pair of shoes. Yeah. Now we all react that way. Um, right. And see how it spirals out of control since there.

Sharon Hamilton (02:45)
Ha!

Greg Hasler (02:48)
Yeah. ⁓

Jill Bartholomew (02:53)
But yeah. And yeah, then I was like, you know, I had done some 5Ks, I had done a 10K. And I was like, I wanted to sign up for like the five and 10 at Disney World and they had been sold out. So I was like, all right, I'll do the half marathon. It's only twice the distance. It's runner's math, right? If you can do a 5K, you can do 10K. If you can do a 10K, you can do half. If you can do half, you can do full. And if you can do a full, you can do an Ironman, right? That's how it works.

Greg Hasler (03:13)
Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (03:18)
And no, you're capable of it, whether you want to or not, a different story. Yeah, you know, yeah, I had seen that or someone had mentioned to me somewhere, they're like, ⁓ yeah, you know, do you know they do runs at Disney? So I looked it up and I'm like, you can do runs at Disney. And it started a very expensive, but somewhat healthy.

Greg Hasler (03:18)
No, no, doesn't work that way. I promise you it doesn't work that way.

Sharon Hamilton (03:22)
Maybe you can.

Greg Hasler (03:24)
Maybe you can.

Sharon Hamilton (03:27)
Yeah, a different story.

Jill Bartholomew (03:48)
new addiction. So I'm not aware of anyone having come up with a nine step program for this one yet or 12 step or however many steps it is.

Greg Hasler (03:49)
You

I don't think

Sharon Hamilton (03:56)
I

think we'd know there should be. didn't, it's Disney sort of got me back into running because I was a runner a long time ago, like in my twenties and did a bunch of races back then. But then I had gotten out of it after having kids. And then during COVID, I was already a big Disney person, but I was like, I don't run anymore. Like I knew about run Disney, but I was like, yeah, like I don't do that anymore. Like, I'm not like, why would you get up at two in the morning at Disney? ⁓ and so, but then I started running during COVID because

Greg Hasler (03:56)
there is one. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (04:09)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Greg Hasler (04:19)
Ha

Jill Bartholomew (04:23)
Wait, it's

two in the morning, so you sleep in?

Sharon Hamilton (04:26)
Yeah, I do. I sleep really late. Occasionally, for the marathon, was like one, but two usually. But because I started running during COVID, because it was COVID and what else are you going to do? And that's when I started. That's why I didn't do until 22, because I wasn't running before that.

Greg Hasler (04:27)
So yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (04:40)
Yes.

Yeah, I think

COVID was the biggest boon to the running industry that they've probably had since the invention of the sneaker.

Sharon Hamilton (04:52)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. And then my first time that I tried to sign up for Run Disney, I couldn't get in because I didn't know what I was doing. And so I like didn't prepare at all for registration. I was like, that's today. And so then then then I started doing my homework. And now the rest is history.

Jill Bartholomew (05:11)
And you've since learned the secret sauce to getting your registration.

Sharon Hamilton (05:14)
And

Greg Hasler (05:16)
Exactly.

Sharon Hamilton (05:16)
since I have somehow managed to get all of them.

Jill Bartholomew (05:19)
Right.

Greg Hasler (05:20)
That's

no easy task. And do you do the 5K at each one? ⁓ OK.

Sharon Hamilton (05:23)
Mm-hmm. No.

Never, never the 5K.

Jill Bartholomew (05:27)
Yeah, but

both of you shunned the five K's and I'm like, that's one of my favorite ones. It's unfortunate it's not timed, but like starting from the front of A, it's like such a fun race

Sharon Hamilton (05:39)
I actually had way more fun at the 5K with my daughter when we started in D with a bunch of our friends, because we just walked and so it was like an hour long walk through Epcot, which was much more fun to me than like a 20 minute sprint through a dark Epcot at five in the morning. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (05:54)
Oh, yeah. So

my son's first 10K, I think you might have met him at his first 10K. We ran from B or C, which is his corral, and he had done a bunch of 5Ks. I remember distinctly telling him, I'm like, this was the first springtime surprise.

And I remember telling him, I'm like, it's only like two 5Ks back to back. Sorry if I'm squeaky. I lost my voice on Sunday and it's like slowly coming back, but it's very annoying. I have to talk low to have a voice. My kids are making fun of me. They're like, mom, your voice has dropped so low. ⁓ Yeah, I remember telling him, I'm like, it's two 5Ks back to back. I'm like, that's it.

And so, you know, on the 10 K you go out, you start, you go out to the left. And this is what, you know, when we still had to do the long March, um, before the start line, you you go out to the, you you go down the start, you kind of, you kind of go to the left and then around like just before marker one or just after marker one, you make the 180, you know, flip around, come back. And then you go to the bottom of the Hill, do the other turn and then start going up the ramp.

Greg Hasler (06:57)
you

Sharon Hamilton (07:06)
sharp turn.

Jill Bartholomew (07:12)
of disdain that like everybody do you know on Strava someone named that heartbreak hill and i'm like hon you really need to go to Boston

Greg Hasler (07:15)
Mm-mm.

Ha ha ha ha.

Jill Bartholomew (07:21)
Yeah.

Yeah. That ramp on Strava is heartbreak Hill, apparently. It's, it's a on-ramp It's not that bad. So, so, you know, the 5k mark is around the top of that ramp.

Sharon Hamilton (07:25)
Yeah

Yeah, it's all that bad.

Greg Hasler (07:29)
No, it's not.

Sharon Hamilton (07:31)
Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (07:36)
The 5K mark, he was great too. He ran, I don't know, like 24, 26 minutes to get there.

Sharon Hamilton (07:39)
no.

Was he like 12? How old was he then?

Jill Bartholomew (07:49)
He was the minimum age.

Sharon Hamilton (07:50)
that you can be to do a 10k. That's 10. You can be 10 to do a 10k. Uh-huh.

Jill Bartholomew (07:53)
Well, in springtime, surprise, the first year, you

had to be a year younger than all the other races. And I don't know if it's because like the temperatures or because like the 5K was at night or something, but I don't know. are plenty of small children at the time. Anyways, so like he made it to like 3.2 and then he's like, mom.

Greg Hasler (08:17)
Hahaha

Jill Bartholomew (08:19)
My legs hurt. And I'm like, congratulations son. Like every step you take from here is a step further than you've ever run before. And now you guys saw him at springtime surprise, right? Now he's finishing like in the top 10 in these races.

Sharon Hamilton (08:24)
Uh-huh.

Yeah... Yeah, yeah...

Greg Hasler (08:28)
Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (08:30)
yeah.

Greg Hasler (08:36)
yeah,

he is fast and I don't think I ever hear him complain about his legs hurting on the 10k.

Sharon Hamilton (08:37)
is speedy.

don't know.

Jill Bartholomew (08:41)
I do. No, no,

Sharon Hamilton (08:43)
Ha

Jill Bartholomew (08:43)
no, actually it's so funny. He hates the 10 K is his least favorite distance and his rationale. Meanwhile, I'm like, I like the 10 K, but I understand his rationale. Right? So his rationale is he's like, he's like a five K it's a sprint. go all out and it's manageable and like,

Sharon Hamilton (08:55)
I love 10Ks.

Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (09:09)
He's like, a half marathon, it's an endurance race, right? You have to, it's hard, it's long. You have to manage your effort, blah, blah. He's like a 10K. He's like, I don't know what the heck a 10K is. He's like, it's like some stupid distance in the middle where it's not a sprint, but it's not an endurance race. And I'm like.

Greg Hasler (09:17)
Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (09:26)
Yeah, you're not wrong. I know, I know.

Sharon Hamilton (09:26)
I mean, that's not bad logic. Like he's not, he's not wrong. Uh-huh.

Greg Hasler (09:27)
Yeah, it's a proof of time race. Yeah, proof

of time.

Sharon Hamilton (09:32)
Yeah, he's not wrong. Yeah. Uh-huh.

Jill Bartholomew (09:34)
Yeah. Yeah.

So, yeah, anyways, but you know, you're, ⁓ so I think that was the first time you guys met him was as, or at least Sharon, you was at his first 10 K.

Sharon Hamilton (09:46)
I think so. I think I was at that one that he was at. I don't, which was the first one? The first one I did was,

Jill Bartholomew (09:49)
You've said all the spring times.

⁓ man, I don't remember the years. was, ⁓ the 5k was through Everest and the theme of the 10 miler. was the tower of terror. 10 miler. ⁓

Sharon Hamilton (10:05)
No, I didn't do that one. My first one was the next year. My first one

was the Toy Story, Ten Miler, I think. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (10:11)
that was the year I ran out on

the fracture. It was like 99 % healed. The doctor was like, go for it. Have fun. Don't hurt yourself. I was totally not trained for it. But two months later, I went and PR'd my marathon. So it wasn't all bad. All right. So Disneyland. ⁓

Sharon Hamilton (10:15)
Yeah, yeah, smart. Uh-huh.

Greg Hasler (10:15)
Ooh. Yeah. Yep.

Sharon Hamilton (10:22)
huh.

Greg Hasler (10:23)
Exactly what could go wrong? What could possibly go?

Sharon Hamilton (10:26)
Ha ha ha!

Jill Bartholomew (10:39)
Sharon, you did Dopey to Dumbo, right? Or you did Dumbo that year. And Greg, you did Dopey to Dumbo. Well, it's funny. We had stood next to each other in corrals before.

Sharon Hamilton (10:43)
Uh huh. Well, I did Dumbo that year. I didn't do Dopey, but I did Dope Dumbo. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (10:48)
Okay

I did Delphi to Dumbo. That's when we met. We met at Disney. We met at Disneyland.

Sharon Hamilton (10:52)
Mm-hmm.

Greg Hasler (11:01)
Yes.

Sharon Hamilton (11:01)
That's when you guys

Greg Hasler (11:02)
Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (11:02)
met? Was that Disneyland Race? Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (11:03)
But it was, yeah,

so we had like kind of stood next to each other at the races in Florida. And then there were like, know you, I know you, we stood next to each other last week. And then what I really remember was, and maybe it was like the bonding point was, know, Greg, you and I started next to each other in the half marathon.

Greg Hasler (11:11)
Number, I, yeah. ⁓

Yep.

Ha ha ha.

Jill Bartholomew (11:33)
And we finished next to each other in the half marathon. ran very different races in between, but we both.

Greg Hasler (11:36)
Finished. Yeah, I would put

Sharon Hamilton (11:37)
Ugh.

Greg Hasler (11:40)
finished in quote quotation marks. We limped across the finish line together.

Sharon Hamilton (11:43)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (11:44)
Well,

it wasn't him. was an hour 48. So it was a respect.

Greg Hasler (11:47)
we did

really good time, but we were both hurting. think we were glad there wasn't another race.

Jill Bartholomew (11:51)
We were, we were, but it was,

but it was, know, 70s, it was seven, seven start lines in what 10 days, 77 miles. And you know, it was, you know, one weekend and then the next weekend with some flying in the middle. And were we on, were you on the same flight? was going over there. I don't remember. I was on the flight. Yeah. I was on the flight where like the radar equipment stopped working. They got like, I don't know.

Sharon Hamilton (11:54)
Mm-hmm.

Greg Hasler (11:59)
Mm-hmm.

Yep.

I don't think I was. I was on American, so.

Hmm. Hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (12:20)
over like

Mississippi or something. They turned back and went to Miami for us to get a new plane.

Greg Hasler (12:24)
nope,

that was not my flight, so I was not on that one. I would remember.

Sharon Hamilton (12:26)
You would remember.

Jill Bartholomew (12:27)
Yeah, it was like,

isn't there a closer airport than like the one we, the one in Florida back that way. And yeah, I remember them getting on the intercom and they're like, we're really sorry people. And then we get on the ground and they tried to fix it. And they're like, it'll just be another hour. It'll just be, I'm like, in the airline industry is another hour. Right. Eventually like six hours later, eight hours later, they got us a new air.

Sharon Hamilton (12:45)
my God.

Greg Hasler (12:48)
Yeah. No. No.

Sharon Hamilton (12:54)
my God.

Jill Bartholomew (12:54)
Yeah. So we had been expecting to spend the entire day in, ⁓ Disneyland. was our first, it was like, it's not our first cause I had taken the kids earlier, but you know, is it was John's first time there and it was only my second time there. And like, we were expecting to spend the whole day in Disneyland. I think we got there right before park closed just so that my, ⁓ thing on the annual pass didn't get like the tick against me.

Cause yeah, I have a magic key and the magic key is different. You still have to do park reservations, but if you don't show up, it counts against you. if you don't show up like two or three times, then you can't use the magic key for like a month or something. And I'm like...

Sharon Hamilton (13:25)
Do have a Disneyland annual pass? ⁓

you get in trouble. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Greg Hasler (13:40)
you get in trouble. Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (13:47)
blacklisted. huh. Yeah, I have heard that.

Greg Hasler (13:50)
Yep.

Jill Bartholomew (13:52)
I'm like, no, I don't want a blacklist. ⁓ Versus like Florida where like, it doesn't matter, but we still have the reservations and half the time you can't get the reservation for the park you want. So you have to scan into a different park so that you can then immediately drive over to the park you want to go to.

Sharon Hamilton (13:58)
doesn't matter.

That hasn't been happened lately.

Jill Bartholomew (14:13)
yeah, it still happens.

Greg Hasler (14:14)
Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (14:15)
Oh, and that's

Greg Hasler (14:15)
it does.

Sharon Hamilton (14:15)
not happened to me in a long time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, maybe it's only during peak, because run weekends are never. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (14:17)
Yeah. Yeah. We just, we just don't go during the peak anymore, but yeah, with the, ⁓ yeah. Like the other day with,

⁓ may the fourth, ⁓ APs got blocked out of it. Yeah. So there's, yeah, there's like some lawsuit that like these essentially amount to blackout days on passes that don't have blackout days. Interested to see what happens with that. All right. So.

Sharon Hamilton (14:28)
Yeah, well that day it would happen, yes. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah. ⁓

Jill Bartholomew (14:46)
We've all been to Disneyland. We've all been to Florida. What do you think of the upcoming pause?

Sharon Hamilton (14:48)
Mm-hmm.

I

I mean, it's sad, but I've not said, yeah.

Greg Hasler (14:55)
Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say it.

Jill Bartholomew (14:58)
Yeah. I, you know, I was thinking about registering for it and I was traveling. think I was actually, I was in Texas for the Ironman Texas during that registration period. So I ended up forgetting about it and not registering. And now I'm like, ⁓ do I go chase down a charity? ⁓ Greg, does this sound familiar to you? ⁓

Sharon Hamilton (15:06)
Mm-hmm.

⁓ huh.

huh.

Greg Hasler (15:19)
It sounds familiar. Except

Sharon Hamilton (15:20)
⁓ huh.

Greg Hasler (15:23)
I haven't been chasing very hard. So

Jill Bartholomew (15:25)
You've

got some time. I'm like, do I go chase down a charity or? No, it really wouldn't. Where do you say? You know, whatever. I got my coast to coast, but they made the coast to coast medal this year. So pretty. The one we got was like the fudgy little suitcase thing. Yeah. And now it's like, you know, the 2025 ones really cute, right? With Walt.

Greg Hasler (15:27)
I got time.

Sharon Hamilton (15:29)
Yeah. I mean, you could get one. It wouldn't be that hard. Yeah. Mm hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Greg Hasler (15:47)
like a license plate, license plate.

Sharon Hamilton (15:47)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Well, that's

why I signed up for the Halloween in Disneyland was because of that medal. Right. So you'll get that one. You're not, you're not going because you have that conflict, but.

Jill Bartholomew (15:57)
Yeah. Well, I'm also signed up for the Halloween, not going to that one. Yeah.

⁓ yeah, like a wedding.

Sharon Hamilton (16:07)
Like you have to get married. know, things interfere.

Greg Hasler (16:08)
You have to get married.

Jill Bartholomew (16:08)
I know. Well,

yeah, mean, Lake Placid and then a wedding and then Kona. I'm like, I'm registered for it. I don't have a hotel. I don't have flights. I could go, I guess. But I have a feeling if I travel anymore that my kids are going to disown me.

Sharon Hamilton (16:14)
Mm-hmm.

huh.

If I had.

⁓ If I had to put money on it, I bet you'll be there. I just think you will.

Greg Hasler (16:28)
Yeah.

You'll be there. Yeah.

Only if you, yeah, I was gonna say.

Jill Bartholomew (16:34)
I did

renew my magic key. And so I need to get some use out of it. Because those things are not cheap. They're worse than Disney World AP.

Sharon Hamilton (16:39)
Uh-huh.

Well...

Right.

Well, and they have more rules and stuff. got, well, this is a little, I was trying to figure out what to do for the Disneyland race and long story, but I had to get a ticket for one day for Disneyland because of how I'm doing the travel. Like I have a ticket for a package, but I needed just a one day ticket. And I got a one day Disneyland ticket for like a hundred bucks. I mean, it's like on a Wednesday, Wednesday or Thursday.

Jill Bartholomew (17:02)
Okay

RIP.

Greg Hasler (17:07)
Wow.

Jill Bartholomew (17:08)
Is that like

one of the enter after 4 p.m.

Sharon Hamilton (17:11)
No, it's a whole day ticket for Disneyland for a hundred bucks. It doesn't have the genie plus or whatever, but I didn't really care about that. so, ⁓ cause it's like my, yeah, I was like, that's not bad at all. I thought so. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (17:18)
Yeah, like that sounds like. Yeah, even just even Disney World

Greg Hasler (17:22)
That's the deal. Yeah, that's a good.

Jill Bartholomew (17:25)
prices these days for Magic Kingdoms. Don't they start at like 120 now?

Sharon Hamilton (17:30)
At least, yeah.

Greg Hasler (17:31)
Yeah,

yeah, maybe higher.

Jill Bartholomew (17:32)
for it during,

during like off peak. Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (17:34)
Yeah, I mean, this is like September 5th or so. It's like a Thursday in September, so it's not exactly a peak day. But I was like, that's not bad. Like, that's not, you know, yeah.

Greg Hasler (17:41)
Yeah, but

Jill Bartholomew (17:43)
Yeah.

Greg Hasler (17:43)
it's like

the Thursday before Labor Day though. it's.

Sharon Hamilton (17:46)
Is that Labor Day? Is Labor Day the 7th?

I think it's the Thursday after Labor Day. I don't know. Yeah, know. Yeah, it didn't seem too bad. But,

Greg Hasler (17:50)
It was the Thursday after. I don't know. It's one of those two weekends. It's Labor Day.

Jill Bartholomew (17:56)
I know that,

I don't know that, you know, I told you guys, you know, we're, getting married in a magic kingdom in August. And that was one of the big questions that everyone that we invited has asked is like, do I need to get a park ticket? And like, need is, is, is such a strong word. It's like, do you need a park ticket? Not to see the wedding, but you do need one if you want to stay in the park after.

Greg Hasler (18:06)
You

Sharon Hamilton (18:20)
Yeah.

Greg Hasler (18:21)
But you're in.

Sharon Hamilton (18:25)
Yes. Wouldn't you want to? Yeah.

Greg Hasler (18:26)
Exactly.

Jill Bartholomew (18:28)
Yeah,

Greg Hasler (18:29)
If you came all the way to Florida for a wedding and you didn't want to go to Disney

Sharon Hamilton (18:31)
Yeah. No.

Jill Bartholomew (18:32)
I'm like, I'm not paying for park tickets for everyone. Because this podcast does not make enough to support.

Greg Hasler (18:38)
No, no.

Exactly. Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (18:41)
The $1.50 is not going to spread that far. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (18:43)
No, no.

$1.50 a month is not going to support that.

Sharon Hamilton (18:47)
⁓ Yeah, I think that the whole cancellation of Disneyland is run Disney conspiring to make sure that I never skip a weekend because I was not going to do Halloween and then I saw the Coast to Coast medal and I was like, okay, I talked to Kim and I was like, okay, we're going to do Halloween. So then I just did Halloween. Then I was like, I'm not going to do Marathon weekend. I'm going to do the Disneyland weekend in January instead.

but they didn't release the dates and they just had it TBD, TBD, TBD. And so was like, I don't think it's going to happen. So then I signed up for marathon weekend. Then they released the dates for Disneyland and I'm like, I'm not going to do Disneyland because that was the whole deal. I'm doing marathon weekend. I'm going to skip it. Then they're like, we're canceling Disneyland races forever. So I signed up for Disneyland. I think they're just personally messing with me to be like, you think you're going to skip a weekend? No, I am doing

Greg Hasler (19:36)
They are.

Jill Bartholomew (19:36)
⁓

So are you doing Dopey to Dumbo now?

Greg Hasler (19:39)
Thanks

Sharon Hamilton (19:42)
Goofy the Dumbo.

Greg Hasler (19:44)
goofy.

Jill Bartholomew (19:44)
So you're

doing the half and full. I don't understand this though. I'm like, so like, you you live a couple hours south of me, right? But we both are like mid Atlantic. I'm like the north end of mid Atlantic. You're like the south end. And, know, so similar climate, right? We get some humidity and we get some heat, but it's minus a couple of weeks in the summer. It's not that bad.

Sharon Hamilton (19:46)
Yeah, I don't do 5Ks. I hate 5Ks.

Greg Hasler (19:52)
it.

Sharon Hamilton (19:53)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (20:11)
And then you go to Florida, which is kind of like the depths of hell.

Sharon Hamilton (20:17)
In August, yes.

Greg Hasler (20:19)
I guess, yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (20:20)
if you put

the depths of hell inside a sauna, right?

Sharon Hamilton (20:22)
Yeah.

And lit on fire. ⁓

Greg Hasler (20:24)
perfect for a wedding. It's perfect for a wedding.

Jill Bartholomew (20:27)
Right, right. Well, you know, it's funny.

You know, we picked the date, like, very pragmatically. We looked at the race schedule. Yeah, we looked at the race schedule and the school schedule. And I'm like, OK. There was one weekend where we're like, OK, if we do it on this one weekend, we don't have to mess with race schedules and training.

Sharon Hamilton (20:34)
Yeah, well, that's what you got to work around.

Greg Hasler (20:36)
You

Jill Bartholomew (20:54)
And we don't have to take the kids out of school. And it's far enough from the start of school that it doesn't piss my son off too much. Because you know that last week before school, the kids find it to be like sacred. They're like, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, no, I need my Xbox time, But yeah, no. And then I went and bought the wedding dress. And I'm like,

Sharon Hamilton (21:09)
Yes, they really have to get in their loafing.

Greg Hasler (21:10)
Yes.

Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (21:14)
Uh huh. Uh huh.

Jill Bartholomew (21:24)
It's at Disney. We're getting married literally in front of the castle. So it needs to be a big princess dress. said to the lady that was helping me at the fitting, I'm like, it needs to be worthy of a magic king. It needs to be a princess dress, Cinderella dress. So without sharing too much, because I know John listens to this, right?

Sharon Hamilton (21:28)
So it's gotta be like a big princess dress.

Greg Hasler (21:29)
It's gotta be big, Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (21:38)
Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (21:50)
I think it's going to be like a thousand pounds in the August. The ceremony is at 8 a.m. So it's an hour before park opens, but the early entry guests will be in the park. So I'm like, OK, that's going to be interesting. Like I didn't know.

Sharon Hamilton (21:53)
Uh-huh. What time of day is the wedding? Is it?

Okay.

Greg Hasler (22:00)
It'll be nice. 8 a.m. is nice.

Sharon Hamilton (22:08)
Mm-hmm.

coming in.

my God,

I didn't realize that. Now I'm tempted to go down there and get an early entry.

Jill Bartholomew (22:23)
Well, do you want to share? I could, I have connections. I could probably get you invited.

Greg Hasler (22:24)
Thank

Sharon Hamilton (22:27)
It's.

Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (22:29)
So back to run Disney, right? ⁓

So, you know, I was expecting that this weekend because of everything you just said, Sharon, right? Like all the uncertainty and then the announcement, you know, it all came like fast and furious. I was expecting it to sell out like wildfire and it didn't.

Greg Hasler (22:45)
Mm-mm.

Sharon Hamilton (22:46)
Mm-hmm.

That was easy. That was like a super easy registration day.

Jill Bartholomew (22:56)
Yeah,

I was listening to, I think it was Rise and Run rattled off like all the times the other day. And it was like, it was like normal, like maybe slightly faster. It was like an hour combo to sell out. was like an hour and half hour for the 5k. The only one that surprised me was Yoga.

Sharon Hamilton (22:58)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

It was, yeah.

That's because it's a Muppets theme. People love the Muppets. People love Muppets, that's why.

Jill Bartholomew (23:18)
Since when does

Disney Yoga have a theme?

Sharon Hamilton (23:22)
I don't know. I thought the last, yeah, I don't know. guess they don't at Disney. I've never done it before, but I'm doing it at Disneyland in Halloween. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (23:23)
Disneyland. Disneyland, guess.

Jill Bartholomew (23:24)
Ow.

Did it?

I don't know. just like sign up

for the yoga. I love the yoga at Disney. think it, although the one this past, yeah, was that Princess? That was Princess. Yeah, the one in the rain kind of pushed my limits of like what I'm willing to do for the free purple mat. It was purple this year, it green last year, was blue the year before. What's it gonna be next year, orange?

Sharon Hamilton (23:36)
Yeah.

The pouring rain, that one looked fun. That was Princess.

Greg Hasler (23:44)
That was Princess.

Sharon Hamilton (23:52)
Right?

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I have the green one Nancy gave me hers, but I've never done the yoga before.

Jill Bartholomew (24:03)
It's fun. So like, you got to get there early. at Disney World, like it's the yoga is like, they've done enough times, right? It's super well organized. Like it's a madhouse, but it's super well organized. The one at Disneyland, least when I did it last year, it was none of the above.

Greg Hasler (24:04)
This here.

Sharon Hamilton (24:05)
Yeah.

You got a good spot.

Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (24:29)
Uh, you know, I've, I've heard that they've learned a little bit, you know, cause you know, you know, we went to the one in 2024. was the first race back after like a decade. They flew in the run Disney people from Florida and apparently didn't listen to anything they had to say. It was run by Disney events, not run Disney. But I thought that the, the one they did for Halloween last year was.

Sharon Hamilton (24:29)
Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (24:39)
Mm-hmm.

Sharon Hamilton (24:44)
That was chaotic, yes.

Jill Bartholomew (24:58)
was actually run by Ren Disney. Aside from the heat, I heard it was a lot better.

Sharon Hamilton (25:01)
It was better. Yeah,

it was. I mean, it was better in terms of organization and like all of that, like the logistics were a little bit smoother. Like the security was organized and stuff.

Jill Bartholomew (25:10)
Yeah, I mean, mean, they. OK,

and I mean, they can't control the heat too much, right? The Disney bubble in Burbank is different from the one in Florida.

Greg Hasler (25:16)
was better.

Sharon Hamilton (25:17)
Yeah. Yeah, the heat was not better.

Right.

Yeah.

Greg Hasler (25:25)
Yeah.

But, but the race is more quaint, I would say at Disneyland, right? I mean, there's. Yeah, exactly. You know, the, the stand right there in front of us, right? With the announcers. mean, although we were doing trivia, we were doing trivia in the crowd. It was strange, it was quaint.

Jill Bartholomew (25:31)
It's more like a local race.

Sharon Hamilton (25:33)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, yes. I love that.

Jill Bartholomew (25:40)
I did find that strange.

Sharon Hamilton (25:45)
I like

it.

Jill Bartholomew (25:48)
Although I find it funny. So Carissa, ⁓ you know, I had no idea who she was before. ⁓ I got into her on Disney, right? But now it's like, you know, a run Disney race without her is not the same. And, we have, what was it? Was it the half where she, what she wasn't there? She was late. She had something going on with her family. But now like I go to his iron man events and she's the announcer at some of them. And I'm like, I'm like, I can't get away from you.

Greg Hasler (26:02)
Mm-mm.

Sharon Hamilton (26:07)
Yeah.

Greg Hasler (26:13)
Wow.

Sharon Hamilton (26:15)
It's like seeing your teacher at the grocery store. Like, what are you doing here?

Jill Bartholomew (26:17)
It kind of is.

Greg Hasler (26:18)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (26:20)
You've got like, for me, like there's two worlds, right? And there's not a lot of overlap between them. I will tell you that like, run Disney has a reputation, right? And the reputation recently is like, it's largely like slower beginner runners.

Greg Hasler (26:27)
Mm-mm.

Jill Bartholomew (26:44)
We all know, like we all run from the A corral and yeah, we've seen it. We've been around a while. We know it, it's both, right? And every once in a while, they, especially Marathon weekend, they do get some of the elite athletes there. But the reputation in the non-running community is that it's kind of a joke, right? So in the Ironman community,

Greg Hasler (26:53)
Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (27:11)
When I run across other people who also do run Disney, I'm like, I'm like.

I love you. Because yeah, you know, um, last year I had put down, you know, we have to put down our, um, you know, I'm on a team and we put down all the races that we're and all the run Disney ones is like me and one other person, except for marathon weekend. There's a fair number. There's a fair number and someone who I won't remember.

Sharon Hamilton (27:16)
Yeah. Yeah.

hope you bought the topic.

Jill Bartholomew (27:43)
won't name, you know, was like, you sure you want to admit to doing those? I'm like, yeah, I love them. They're fun. They're got me into running. And it's like, I started in the F Corral, my first run Disney race. I didn't have proof of time. And like the whole reason I got a coach in the first place is because I don't want to be in the F Corral anymore.

Sharon Hamilton (27:48)
Thanks

Greg Hasler (27:50)
They're fun! Yeah, they are fun.

Sharon Hamilton (27:50)
Mm-hmm.

There.

Greg Hasler (28:03)
⁓ You do not.

Jill Bartholomew (28:05)
Unlike you,

Sharon, you've been doing it your whole

Sharon Hamilton (28:08)
Yeah, but I like that about it. I like that it's not so serious and that it's so accessible to anybody. You know what mean? Like, but anybody, like you could be fast and yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (28:15)
Yeah. Although,

although like there's, there's like the cliques that have formed and on the one hand, like that's what's great. Cause like they're, really big races. ⁓ like marathon weekend is one of the largest running events in the country. It might be the largest. It's, it's one of the like top two. Yeah. Yeah. Like last year I saw a thing that like last year there was over a hundred thousand runners.

Sharon Hamilton (28:35)
It's a lot of people.

Greg Hasler (28:36)
happens a lot.

Jill Bartholomew (28:45)
At the event in total or a hundred thousand people or whatever. And it had eclipsed a New York marathon for like total number of participants. ⁓ but it's, you know, it's over four days, not one day. but you know, there's the clicks that foreign light, like, I mean, there's the, five or six of us, right? We've met, we've become friends and. Yeah, there's, there's others like there's brands that have come, that have, you know, popped up around it.

Sharon Hamilton (29:06)
and

Mm.

Jill Bartholomew (29:15)
Like Crown Athletics, yeah, I love their tops. You know, I run in a lot of them, like they're cute, especially on Princess Weekend. Right? And there's some others that have kind of come and gone. And you know, how many, you know, well, we're very sparkly on Run Weekends. Right, like brands that, ⁓ yeah, like brands that these things have inspired.

Sharon Hamilton (29:18)
yeah.

Sparkling

Greg Hasler (29:32)
⁓

There's a lot of sparkle.

Sharon Hamilton (29:36)
Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (29:39)
But back to your point, Greg, it does feel like a more local race. That was one of my first impressions when we did it in 24 was the 5K. I mean, you could tell that there were some growing pains, right? The characters were like the regular characters that are out every day, and they didn't know how to behave.

Greg Hasler (29:45)
Mm-hmm.

Sharon Hamilton (29:46)
Mm.

I were too

slow.

Jill Bartholomew (30:06)
Well, yeah, I was at the front. I was like at the front of the 5k and this, like, you know, normally the people are at the front of the 5k or 10k or whatever. Just pop in, pick, pop out. Right. It's like two seconds or less. Right. Right. Like don't acknowledge I'm here. Just smile and like you got a mask on. So I don't care you're sticking your tongue out at me, whatever. ⁓ because I won't know it. And they were having like full on character interactions. And was that the first one that had, ⁓

Sharon Hamilton (30:19)
talk to me, right?

Bye.

this.

Jill Bartholomew (30:36)
not Merida.

There was a new character at one of those. I forget which one. Yeah, yeah. One from Encanto, yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (30:41)
I know who you're thinking about. The one from Encanto?

I can't think of her name. Maribel, Maribel. Maribel, Maribel, yeah.

Greg Hasler (30:47)
⁓ Not Maribel. Maribel? Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (30:49)
Maribel, thank you. We're all like Disney people and we're sitting here

like, I know what she looks like. What's her name?

Greg Hasler (30:57)
She's

Sharon Hamilton (30:57)
Uh-huh.

Greg Hasler (30:57)
got the glasses on and she got a doorbell error. Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (30:58)
Uh-huh. Yeah. Probably.

Jill Bartholomew (31:00)
Yeah, wasn't that the first one that she was at? She was like,

Greg Hasler (31:03)
I might

Jill Bartholomew (31:04)
she

Greg Hasler (31:04)
have been one of the first when she was at, yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (31:04)
was like, and she was like super chatty. And anyways, I just remember like this one stop, I was like, dude, shut up and take the picture. Like this is not a character interaction. There's not autographs to be signed. And you know, and that was like my first impression of that was like, huh. And there was.

Sharon Hamilton (31:06)
Yeah.

Greg Hasler (31:15)
Ha ha.

Sharon Hamilton (31:18)
Yeah. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (31:27)
There wasn't a lot of photographers either on that one.

Greg Hasler (31:28)
Yeah, there

was not, but I love the 10K at Disneyland because it's all park. All park.

Sharon Hamilton (31:34)
I hope it's the best.

Jill Bartholomew (31:37)
Yeah, I'd have

to, I'd have to agree with you. I think like at Disneyland, 10K is the best one. The 5K is not spectator friendly, like at all, because it starts and ends in the park and they don't allow the spectators at the finish line because it's too cramped.

Sharon Hamilton (31:41)
Yeah, it totally is.

Greg Hasler (31:41)
Mm-hmm.

Sharon Hamilton (31:47)
Yeah.

Mm.

Greg Hasler (31:56)
Mm-mm.

Jill Bartholomew (31:57)
Bye.

Sharon Hamilton (31:58)
Yeah, that makes sense. I never had a spectator there, but it would make sense that that would not be the most spectator friendly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But they let like for merit for the princess and marathon weekend at world, they let spectators into Magic Kingdom. So they not let spectators into the parks.

Jill Bartholomew (32:01)
Well, yeah, I did. And he was very unhappy. And he continues to let me know how.

Greg Hasler (32:06)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (32:15)
Oh, no, they

let them into the park. Um, well, insert they, yeah. So for the 5k, they let them into, um, California adventure, but they couldn't go to the finish line area because it finishes like right in that Pixar area. Right. And it's like really no, no, no, it's back where, um, the roller coaster is. Yeah. And it's.

Sharon Hamilton (32:30)
⁓

Yeah, right by the Little Mermaid, kind of. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (32:40)
my pics are up here. ⁓

Sharon Hamilton (32:42)
it was all the way

back there? Okay.

Jill Bartholomew (32:43)
And it's like,

it's very narrow there. So for them to like have the finishers and the finisher chute and the like plastic cheese boxes and so on, know, they, you know, no.

Sharon Hamilton (32:56)
Were you there at Halloween this year?

Cause that's, I did the 5k at Halloween and that, I wonder if they moved it for that reason. Cause the finish line was you went all the way through Pixar Pier around like around where all those, like the swing ride is and like right, right in front of the little mermaid. You turn left to grizzly peak. Like that's where the finish was. Yeah. Yeah. I think they had spectators and maybe they took the note.

Greg Hasler (33:00)
Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (33:08)
Okay.

okay. cause like we're okay. Yeah. Cause we're okay. Cause yeah, like we're that area is much larger.

Greg Hasler (33:18)
⁓

Mm-hmm.

Sharon Hamilton (33:24)
John made a strongly worded email and they changed it. Cause I think it was better at Disneyland. Yeah. Well, it sounds like they maybe fixed it, but I agree the 10 K is the best, but I also like the half there and that people hate it. Like people complain about it so much. So, so, so here's my theory. I have a theory. It's because we, all of us, I think.

Jill Bartholomew (33:29)
Maybe it's not John was very vocal about his discontent.

Greg Hasler (33:40)
Good.

Jill Bartholomew (33:40)
I don't understand

why people hate it. I'm like, it's... Okay, go.

Sharon Hamilton (33:50)
are people who like to just run races. I run tons of races that are not Disney races. I just like to go racing. And so I think because there is no bubble, the second half of the half marathon in Disneyland, it just feels like a road race. And you're going past gas stations and neighborhoods and whatever, which I like that. I like running through, doing races in different cities. And so it's like, you're just running through Anaheim.

Jill Bartholomew (34:05)
Yeah.

Greg Hasler (34:07)
Mm-hmm. That's true.

Sharon Hamilton (34:15)
which I like because I would like to do a race in Anaheim. And I think the run Disney people that are like really just run Disney people that are like, I go to run Disney because I want to run Disney are like, why am I running down a road next to a Wawa?

Jill Bartholomew (34:28)
No, you're exactly right. I have a feeling that folks who are from California and are used to running or not used to running at Disney World would love it. But folks who and people who like it's their first experience mostly would love it. I'll elaborate on that in a second. But then people who are used to running in Florida at Disney World

Sharon Hamilton (34:30)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (34:57)
are like, what the heck?

Sharon Hamilton (34:58)
But even then, like the half-hit world, you're going down World Drive for four miles and you're like, what are you looking at? Like a sign for the contemporary? Like you're not, it's not a nice race.

Greg Hasler (34:59)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (35:03)
Well, right.

Greg Hasler (35:05)
Yeah. yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (35:07)
Yeah.

And well, yeah, it's empty. I mean, think the difference is, yeah, I think the difference is like those roads are open and empty. And then there's, you know, we're like Disney and land. Those are through the town. And just like you said, you know, we all are used to running ⁓ road races, like wherever. And like in any city, you go through the good areas, you go through the bad areas.

Sharon Hamilton (35:11)
It's not like half of the course is on the ⁓ Yeah. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (35:11)
knife.

Half of it's on freeway. Yeah, it's on road.

Sharon Hamilton (35:20)
Yeah. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (35:36)
not the terrible areas, but even sometimes you do and it's fine. And you know, you have spectators most of the time along the way. And that's the one, you know, the one thing that's nice about that is like, it's actually more spectator friendly than Disney World is, you know, it's like I did a, a thing. Yeah. I did a thing on YouTube around wine and dine. There's like all these questions, like, how do I spectate? It's like, well, actually at Disney World is, is kind of hard.

Sharon Hamilton (35:36)
Mm-hmm.

Greg Hasler (35:54)
It's

Sharon Hamilton (36:04)
It's stressful. ⁓

Jill Bartholomew (36:05)
It is. like the marathon, marathon

Greg Hasler (36:06)
It is hard. Yeah, the parking

and everything. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (36:08)
weekend, you know, all these people who are like, my spectator wants to see me on the course. I'm like, okay, but they're probably going to see you at most four times. Right. And that's if they're good at navigating around, they understand where they can walk, where they have to take transportation, what the transportation is that's available on that day. And the stars align and the moon is in the right phase.

Sharon Hamilton (36:10)
huh.

huh.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. that's if they're good at navigating around. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Greg Hasler (36:18)
Yeah, I'm those. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Sharon Hamilton (36:33)
Yeah,

totally.

Jill Bartholomew (36:34)
versus like the Disneyland one. Yeah, they can like in the parks, they can only see you on the promenade, but outside the park, you've got like 10 miles.

Greg Hasler (36:44)
Yeah. Free

Sharon Hamilton (36:45)
huh. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (36:46)
range. Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (36:46)
I love the promenade part in the Disneyland business. That part is so fun. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (36:50)
I do too. But you remember, that

Greg Hasler (36:51)
I do too. I do.

Jill Bartholomew (36:54)
was the part that the C, D, E corrals were having such a hard time with because of that neck down with the water tables right before they got on it.

Greg Hasler (37:01)
Mm-mm.

Sharon Hamilton (37:04)
really?

Greg Hasler (37:04)
Yeah,

yeah, yeah, that was hard. I think that was hard for people. You know, I think some people have trouble because some people might complain if they are a historic Disneyland runner because the original half marathon, you know, you went to Anaheim Stadium and they let you in the stadium and you ran the. ⁓ OK, well, they didn't in 20. Yeah, that's awesome that that.

Sharon Hamilton (37:06)
Yeah, I don't know whether it was.

Jill Bartholomew (37:09)
Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (37:18)
Mm.

Jill Bartholomew (37:25)
they did that this year. Yeah, they fixed that. So like when we ran it, when we ran

Sharon Hamilton (37:27)
They did that at

They did. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (37:33)
it, we got the grand tour of the parking lot. But yeah, I saw last year that they did let them in the stadium.

Greg Hasler (37:36)
Yes, we ran a

Sharon Hamilton (37:40)
They had it back for Halloween too. I think it was because that first one when you did Dumbo, there was something going on at Angel Stadium and they couldn't, like there was like a monster truck event or something. There was something going on, but we did it at Halloween.

Jill Bartholomew (37:48)
I assumed it was like here. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (37:54)
That makes a huge difference. That makes a

huge difference because you have, I don't know, there's the anticipation. That's what I find the anticipation of. Is there a character? I'm getting to another park. And when you have the stadium to run around the bases, it's like, wow. This is, you know, I ran, yeah, exactly.

Sharon Hamilton (37:56)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah!

Yeah. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (38:09)
Yeah. See, I tend not to

Sharon Hamilton (38:09)
It's just cool. Yeah. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (38:12)
look at

the maps too closely. I mean, I do, but I don't. And yeah, as we were running up and you see like giant stadiums getting closer and closer and closer. It's like, I was like, oh, and we get to run through the stadium. Then we get the tour of the parking lot. I'm like, eh, all right, whatever. But it didn't bother me because here I know that like, you know, we've run enough races.

Sharon Hamilton (38:29)
Yeah.

Greg Hasler (38:30)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (38:37)
Um, now like, uh, the 70.3 happy Valley is the same problem. They actually finish on, you know, like the 50 yard line of the, um, uh, you know, Penn state, but it, there's a carpet that you have to run. That means the red carpet, right? But there's no spectators or if there are, they're in the stands, which is so far away. That's like.

Sharon Hamilton (38:51)
and State Stadium.

Greg Hasler (39:01)
⁓ yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (39:05)
weird.

Yeah, uh-huh.

Jill Bartholomew (39:05)
Right, right. It is. And

Greg Hasler (39:06)
So it's not very fun.

Jill Bartholomew (39:08)
it's because like these stadiums are all protecting the turf. Yeah. Cause like I couldn't imagine, you know, here in Philly, I couldn't imagine, you know, the link, you know, allowing like 20,000 people to, right. 20,000 people to run across the field or even, you know, at Citizen Bank Park, same thing. Like we did a tour several years ago with a club we were in.

Greg Hasler (39:12)
Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (39:17)
Yeah, go in a football stadium. Yeah. Uh-huh. No, no. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (39:33)
of Citizen Bank Park and they're like, you can walk on the dirt. Do not walk on the grass.

Sharon Hamilton (39:37)
Mm-hmm.

Greg Hasler (39:37)
Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (39:40)
I mean, feel like every stadium is like that. You're not allowed to go near the grass.

Greg Hasler (39:41)
Yeah. ⁓

Jill Bartholomew (39:42)
Right. Exactly. That's why

I like didn't really surprise or phase me when, when you're like, Hey, here's the stadium. The inside is super secret. You can't see it.

Sharon Hamilton (39:43)
Yeah, yeah. Uh-huh.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

It was fun running through it. They had an announcer there and then you could see yourself on the big screen because they had a camera that you ran by. It was super fun. And that race, I hated that race so much because it was so hot and I was not. I got injured in that race. It was horrible. oh my God.

Jill Bartholomew (39:59)
that's cool.

And that's.

Greg Hasler (40:02)
That's pretty cool.

Jill Bartholomew (40:11)
Yeah, I remember your post race recap was not ⁓

it was not favorable. I think you said and I quote never again. And here we are.

Sharon Hamilton (40:18)
Here we are. But we can't have that kind of heat wave two years in a row. mean, right? Like it's not going to be a hundred.

Greg Hasler (40:23)
No, absolutely not.

Jill Bartholomew (40:25)
Yeah,

don't jinx that or anything by throwing that out there in the universe.

Greg Hasler (40:26)
Impossible. Impossible.

Sharon Hamilton (40:28)
115

degrees again in September in Anaheim. Hopefully that won't happen. Yeah, it was, super hot, but the Anaheim part was cool. Or the stadium part was cool. mean, yeah. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (40:33)
Yeah, that was...

Greg Hasler (40:36)
That's it.

Jill Bartholomew (40:39)
Yeah, that's one of the things that worry me with

Greg Hasler (40:39)
That is cool. That is cool.

Jill Bartholomew (40:41)
these big races is, you know, we're used to, we run a lot, but not everyone who does these runs in races a lot. And, you know, knowing how to adjust for the conditions of the day, right? Like if it rains or if it snows or if it's a hundred degrees, you know, and

Sharon Hamilton (40:53)
Mm-hmm.

yeah.

Mm-hmm.

and

Jill Bartholomew (41:06)
You know, like the water tables get a little less well stocked for the further back you go, you know, making decisions on like when to bring extra nutrition and want to bring your own hydration. It's like, well, if it's going to be really hot, you have to expect that like the tables are going to be emptier. You know, as you get towards the back, then they normally.

Greg Hasler (41:19)
Mm-hmm.

Sharon Hamilton (41:28)
Are you doing Halloween, Greg? No.

Greg Hasler (41:30)
I'm not doing Halloween, no. I'm doing another marathon that weekend.

Sharon Hamilton (41:32)
Okay.

Jill Bartholomew (41:35)
Don't you live like 10 minutes from there?

Sharon Hamilton (41:35)
Okay.

Greg Hasler (41:37)
No, live, no, it's seven hours of my drive. Yeah, it's it's DC, it's DC to, it's DC to Florida, you know.

Sharon Hamilton (41:37)
to soon. ⁓

Jill Bartholomew (41:42)
I know. ⁓

Greg Hasler (41:54)
Now I don't need one. I don't

need one. I need one. I practice running without hydration and so on. Well practiced. I train for it. I'm well trained. I'm well trained for it.

Jill Bartholomew (41:57)
I was going to say, Greg, Greg.

Sharon Hamilton (42:01)
huh, you train for dehydrated running.

Jill Bartholomew (42:07)
man, you can't bring that up and not tell the story. Come on, I want to hear it.

Sharon Hamilton (42:10)
Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

Greg Hasler (42:11)
There

is no story. I just don't hydrate and they feed me. I do hydrate during the marathon and I do hydrate when it is hot, but hot is anything over 80 degrees.

Sharon Hamilton (42:13)
There's no story. Greg just doesn't hydrate and we tease him about it. Uh-huh. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (42:19)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (42:25)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (42:26)
All

right, ingesting the sweat that rolls off your upper lip is not hydrating.

Sharon Hamilton (42:27)
Yeah.

does

not count as hydration. That was...

Greg Hasler (42:33)
I I so

I do not like to wear Gatorade though. I mean I will tell you that and like during the marathon I I just anyways I always spill it they say they say well they they overfill the cups I don't think you need a cup full it's like a third a third of a cup half is too much

Sharon Hamilton (42:39)
yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (42:45)
You spilled it on yourself.

Sharon Hamilton (42:47)
or it came back up. ⁓ yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (42:55)
No, you're supposed to... those little cups you're supposed to fill... Yeah, they're supposed to fill it halfway.

Sharon Hamilton (42:57)
Yeah, let's take this much. Yeah. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (43:03)
But I actually think that's one of the things that changed in Florida last year when they got rid of volunteers and went to, to, to staff is like, I think a lot of the volunteer groups, like they, they, they do runs, they know those things. And, you know, now I'm like, but you know, that's how California is too, right? It's, it's not volunteers and they, don't necessarily.

Greg Hasler (43:04)
That's like... Swamping for me.

Sharon Hamilton (43:09)
Mm.

Yeah. ⁓

They were better. ⁓

Greg Hasler (43:23)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (43:32)
like know the sport, they're filling and handing out cups. And if you don't know it, you might be like, ⁓ they want more. It's like,

Sharon Hamilton (43:41)
Well, the Gatorade's

Greg Hasler (43:41)
I really don't. It is. It's not bad. It's just you're sticky. I don't like but. Little sticky is all, but.

Sharon Hamilton (43:41)
usually yellow, so it wouldn't be a little sticky. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (43:46)
Yeah, it's really sweet. So did you guys ever use the Gatorade

gels? So one year they had them on the Philly Marathon, ⁓ the Gatorade gels. So they're really viscous. So like really like liquidy. And there is a picture.

Sharon Hamilton (43:54)
No.

Greg Hasler (43:56)
I've used the salt things, not the Gatorade.

Sharon Hamilton (43:59)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (44:12)
of me crossing the finish line wearing a Gatorade gel.

So I

Greg Hasler (44:19)
Well

Jill Bartholomew (44:21)
was wearing black pants that day. was very cold. They dry white.

Sharon Hamilton (44:23)
Mm

Oh gross. You're like, not a framer. I'm not going to keep this photo. No, that's funny.

Greg Hasler (44:29)
⁓ Ew. Ew, ew, ew.

Jill Bartholomew (44:32)
Yeah, yeah, it was not the best look.

Greg Hasler (44:35)
If... Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (44:38)
No, no, no, no, no, no, that one did not get shared.

Yeah. So, so you're both running Disneyland.

Sharon Hamilton (44:49)
Yes.

Greg Hasler (44:51)
January, whatever it's called.

Jill Bartholomew (44:51)
In January, are you?

Yeah, if they have the.

Sharon Hamilton (44:55)
It's like

the Disneyland May Have Marathon weekend, I think. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (44:58)
Yeah, if they do

the one in September next year, are you going to do it?

Sharon Hamilton (45:02)
They're not going to, they already announced that, right? you're right, after 2026. Here they freaking go again, making me sign up for another race. What the heck?

Jill Bartholomew (45:03)
Well, no, I thought they just said after 2026. Last I looked, September is still in 2026.

Greg Hasler (45:06)
The third.

I don't know if I will

do September. I'm usually gone in September, And it's hot. California's hot. The hottest time of the year is September here. I can't believe they scheduled a race for September.

Sharon Hamilton (45:21)
I would like to ssss

Jill Bartholomew (45:25)
I don't know. The coldest

winter I've ever had was July in San Francisco.

Greg Hasler (45:30)
Well, San Francisco, like the San Francisco marathons in the summer because it's the only time it might be okay.

Sharon Hamilton (45:31)
That's a different. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (45:35)
Yeah. I ran the San

Sharon Hamilton (45:35)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (45:38)
Francisco marathon in 2023, I think. And, you know, that's at the end of July or middle of July. It's cold. It's cold. Yeah. Although it's beautiful. It's a beautiful marathon. I mean, it's San Francisco. You're not avoiding. But it's not, it's not as bad as like you have in your head. It's only like 20,000.

Sharon Hamilton (45:44)
Yeah.

Greg Hasler (45:44)
Hmm.

Sharon Hamilton (45:48)
Yeah. But that's different than Anaheim. ⁓ Is it hilly? I bet it's hilly. Yeah. Uh-huh.

Greg Hasler (45:48)
And it's cold.

It's hilly.

Sharon Hamilton (46:03)
Yeah.

⁓

Greg Hasler (46:05)
Well, the bridge is probably the hardest part because I did it one year. I loved it, but the bridges. But the bridge is like much more uphill than you thought. And then you ran at least I ran underneath the bridge. Like we turn around and underneath the bridge and back up.

Jill Bartholomew (46:09)
I loved the bridge.

Sharon Hamilton (46:11)
But that'd be so cool. Yeah, you get up to it.

Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (46:20)
Yeah, it's, I found that

Sharon Hamilton (46:20)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (46:22)
to be, I found that to be the hardest part of that marathon was you cross the bridge and you know, I was, I don't know. I started in the second corral that year and the, cause it was my first marathon, like after having the, the fracture and you know, I made it to the bridge, the bridge is around like the 10 K mark.

Greg Hasler (46:48)
Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (46:48)
And I made it to the bridge. The sun had not really started coming up yet. So I got to see the sunrise over Alcatraz while crossing the bridge, which I had to stop and take look. Like it was so, it was, it was so beautiful. It was so windy, but it was so beautiful. And you know, there, there was still like the fog, you know, on the water. So it was like, it was like, it was like a postcard, but then you get to the other side.

Sharon Hamilton (46:53)
Mm.

Greg Hasler (47:00)
That's awesome.

Sharon Hamilton (47:01)
That'd be really cool. Yeah. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (47:02)
That is awesome. Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (47:07)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (47:17)
And there's like the, run down to the fort there and that road is at such an angle that like most people were choosing to walk because, you know, it was so steep that like, think the, you know, I hear people complain about the clovers at Disney and how banked they are.

Greg Hasler (47:21)
It's steep.

Sharon Hamilton (47:27)
Bye.

Yeah.

Greg Hasler (47:34)
Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (47:42)
The

Greg Hasler (47:44)
Yeah,

Sharon Hamilton (47:45)
banking, yeah. ⁓

Jill Bartholomew (47:45)
Like those are

Greg Hasler (47:46)
there was no banking here. was just, it's just.

Jill Bartholomew (47:48)
nothing compared to this. These have to be at like 20 degrees. It's like a NASCAR track in places. Could you imagine like your left leg is like two feet longer than your right leg going down that?

Sharon Hamilton (47:48)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

OOF

Greg Hasler (47:57)
But it's awesome.

Sharon Hamilton (48:01)
Bye. ⁓

Jill Bartholomew (48:06)
And then you run under and then you run back up.

Sharon Hamilton (48:08)
Uh-huh.

Greg Hasler (48:08)
Back up.

Sharon Hamilton (48:11)
Yes. Well, I think I'll have to find other races to do in California for a couple of years when Disneyland cancels these. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (48:15)
No, you should

do the same. It's summer, right? mean, what marathon is in July? Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (48:21)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (48:22)
And it's in San Francisco. you know,

Sharon Hamilton (48:24)
Right.

Jill Bartholomew (48:25)
you run past the Gerardelli's ⁓ down a fisherman wharf on the race. And then there's the Gerardelli's right by the finish line.

Sharon Hamilton (48:28)
Mmm.

Greg Hasler (48:29)
Mm-hmm.

Sharon Hamilton (48:31)
Yeah.

Nice. And it would be good to do as like a family vacation too, because it's in the summer. You know what mean? Like the summer in San Francisco is a nice place to go. ⁓

Jill Bartholomew (48:38)
Yeah. Yeah.

It is, it is. And you know,

I, that race, I would say it was probably one of the most well-managed races I've done. And the day before, I think the day before they had like a 5k, which, which was like a nice way of kind of getting everyone. Yeah. Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (48:54)
That's good to know.

I feel like marathons all do that now. It's like a

thing. They all seem to do that the day before. It's Yeah. ⁓

Greg Hasler (49:06)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (49:08)
Yeah, I ran the

Montreal marathon that same year, which is in like September, maybe. And, oh yeah, cause I did, did that, that was the weekend after the Atlantic city 70.3. And that one, it was kind of the same thing. It was like chilly and it's through Montreal, which like, it's kind of hilly, but it's not hilly. It was kind of cold, but it wasn't cold.

Greg Hasler (49:30)
pretty awesome. Yeah, but.

Sharon Hamilton (49:37)
Mm.

Jill Bartholomew (49:38)
But the first half of that, like if you do that, like the first half is beautiful because it's all in the city. The second half is like this long out and back along the subway, but it's super spectator friendly because ⁓ John would get on the subway, goes to the next stop, see me, get on the subway. Yeah. So it's like up in, it's like the Broad Street run in Philadelphia. It's like.

Sharon Hamilton (49:54)
Oh, cause it's like along the subway line. Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (50:01)
Up and down the, it's like up and down the subway. There's like a little kind of like lollipop thing at the end, you know, before the turnaround. ⁓ but the, the fun thing on that is like, got seven miles of net downhill and then you turn around and you get to do it in reverse.

Sharon Hamilton (50:08)
Yeah.

Ugh. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (50:19)
Well, you

know, I did the, all this was in 2019. I did the Las Vegas marathon where you run down the strip. So there's a half marathon that's down the strip and back. It was, it running down the strip is like running at Disney. It is so much fun. mean, and people wear, and people wear costumes. There's a lot of Elvis's running down that.

Jill Bartholomew (50:28)
So is that the rock and roll one or a different one?

Sharon Hamilton (50:28)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (50:39)
I could imagine the energy is really high there.

Sharon Hamilton (50:39)
Yeah.

Yeah.

fun.

Jill Bartholomew (50:45)
Really?

Sharon Hamilton (50:46)
⁓ I mean, that's huh. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (50:46)
⁓ okay. I was like, really? That's surprise. Maybe it shouldn't be. You know, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

Greg Hasler (50:48)
There is a ton. No, it's all yeah, no, it it was like.

But the half was fun, but then when you got to the long out. The strip is only so long. Then we ran through some warehouse districts and stuff and I I wish I'd only done the half instead of the full.

Sharon Hamilton (50:56)
That's true.

Jill Bartholomew (51:01)
Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (51:02)
Mmm. ⁓

Jill Bartholomew (51:08)
You know, I

Sharon Hamilton (51:08)
Yeah,

Jill Bartholomew (51:08)
feel,

Sharon Hamilton (51:08)
yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (51:09)
I feel like a lot of marathons are like that. The Brooklyn, I don't think they do it anymore. I did the Brooklyn marathon and like 22 maybe. And that one was the same way. Like the first half of it was fabulous. The second half of it was basically an out and back on a highway. And I feel like a lot of marathons do that. We're like, the first half is like an amazing race. And the second half.

Greg Hasler (51:23)
Mm-hmm.

Sharon Hamilton (51:28)
Yeah.

Greg Hasler (51:28)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (51:31)
Yeah.

Greg Hasler (51:35)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (51:36)
is just like my numbingly

Sharon Hamilton (51:38)
Yeah. I think there's just lots of places that have, well, maybe they don't have to, but it's sort of like, there's only so much that's sort of the destination. Like there's only so much Vegas strip. you can, yeah.

Greg Hasler (51:38)
Yep.

Jill Bartholomew (51:39)
so much.

Greg Hasler (51:48)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (51:48)
Well, right. But there's also

like the logistics of it, right? You you're asking a city to shut down significant parts of it and impact travelers for basically the majority of it. Yeah. Yeah. We're like, I think a half marathon is much more palatable to say, hey, we're going to shut this down from like 4 a.m. to 11 a.m., I think is more palatable than like, hey, we're going to shut this down from like 4 a.m. to 6 p.m.

Sharon Hamilton (51:54)
Mm-hmm.

Greg Hasler (51:55)
Mm-hmm.

Sharon Hamilton (51:58)
Yeah, half the day at least, yeah.

Greg Hasler (52:00)
Yeah. Yeah.

Well.

Sharon Hamilton (52:06)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Greg Hasler (52:13)
And in Las Vegas, think the race started at six or 7 PM. You ran down, you started at the end of the day. It was a total, it was, it was a totally different concept, right? Like maybe, maybe I don't eat on the course, but I do eat before I run. And so it was weird to be thinking, cause I don't want to eat right before I run. Cause I don't want to throw up. so when do I eat? Yeah. Do I eat just eat breakfast and then.

Sharon Hamilton (52:18)
Mmm.

Jill Bartholomew (52:19)
Yeah. ⁓ I thought that was like a minute.

Yeah, I thought that was a night race.

Sharon Hamilton (52:31)
You

Jill Bartholomew (52:32)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (52:38)
You're like, so when do I eat my last meal? Do I eat? Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (52:43)
Yeah, because

Greg Hasler (52:43)
like my D

Sharon Hamilton (52:43)
Ugh.

Greg Hasler (52:44)
or

Jill Bartholomew (52:44)
there's nothing as much fun as running with all that sitting in your gut.

Sharon Hamilton (52:48)
You

just talked me out of it, Greg, because that's why I hated Boston more than any other reason is because it didn't start till like 11 or 12. I forget it started late in the, in the morning and it just totally threw off the food. Yeah. Either way, it's like, I need to get up and do my thing and run, not like have. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (52:49)
Thanks.

Yeah. You should look at it. It's super fun. It's still super fun if you don't care. Yeah, there's no.

Jill Bartholomew (52:59)
Yeah, but that's different from it starting in the evening.

Yeah, that's like all these.

Greg Hasler (53:07)
Yeah,

then stay out late the night before is what I would suggest and don't get up to like. Exactly exactly.

Sharon Hamilton (53:12)
and go to bed and then get up and make it like breakfast. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (53:14)
So you remember

when springtime surprise first came back, right? The courses haven't really changed since springtime surprise started. were the exception of the 5K, which right now, like every 5K at Disney is the same 5K. But people were complaining that the Tower of Terror 10 miler was originally a night race.

Greg Hasler (53:24)
Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (53:39)
And now it's like, you know, it starts at the normal run Disney 5 a.m. And I'm like, personally, I hate running at night because I'm tired and like you have to eat through the day. And I much prefer doing endurance sports without a belly full of everything I ate. Yeah. So I don't need to haul that around.

Greg Hasler (53:40)
Mm-hmm.

Sharon Hamilton (53:42)
.

Same.

Greg Hasler (53:50)
Yeah. Same.

Sharon Hamilton (53:55)
huh.

Ood. Yeah, yeah, totally. Uh-huh. Uh-uh.

Greg Hasler (54:04)
Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, exactly. Well,

Jill Bartholomew (54:10)
and make

the

Greg Hasler (54:10)
control, you control. If you want to eat something, you can eat something in the morning, but not a full meal. mean, you don't. Well, some people do. Some people in the, in the, you know, if you're an F, you might've eaten a full meal by the time you get to the start line, but.

Jill Bartholomew (54:14)
Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (54:15)
huh.

Yeah, And you're not tired.

Yeah, that's

Jill Bartholomew (54:25)
Well,

Sharon Hamilton (54:25)
true. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (54:26)
well, right. Yeah, for some reason I thought that was like an 11 or 12 p.m.

Greg Hasler (54:31)
I can't

remember. It wasn't that late because I think the sun was going down on us, but it's in February.

Sharon Hamilton (54:33)
⁓ Uh-huh. ⁓

Jill Bartholomew (54:36)
⁓ yeah, because all the pictures you see

are of people running through the strip at night.

Greg Hasler (54:41)
It's night. It's night by the

time you get there because you run out and then you turn

Jill Bartholomew (54:45)
⁓ I

Greg Hasler (54:45)
around

Jill Bartholomew (54:45)
see.

Greg Hasler (54:46)
and it's dark by the time you run like three miles out and then back and yeah anyways.

Sharon Hamilton (54:48)
⁓

Jill Bartholomew (54:50)
Gotcha. Although I'll

be honest, like I never really had a desire to do the rock and roll race out there. Um, it just kind of looked a bit chaotic, but I do want to do the Vegas T 100 at some point. I'm like, that looks fun.

Greg Hasler (55:04)
What's that? Sorry, yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (55:04)
What is that? ⁓

Jill Bartholomew (55:05)
So

T100 is a competitor to Ironman. So like the Ironman distance is 140.6 miles, right? The T100 is 100 kilometers. So it's a little bit less. Yeah. Yeah. It's less than a half Ironman.

Sharon Hamilton (55:10)
Ugh.

Greg Hasler (55:10)
Boom.

Sharon Hamilton (55:17)
huh.

Greg Hasler (55:17)
Hmm.

Sharon Hamilton (55:19)
I know right?

Greg Hasler (55:24)
⁓ There you go.

Sharon Hamilton (55:27)
It's a lot shorter.

Greg Hasler (55:28)
It's like an ultra. It's like a double marathon.

Sharon Hamilton (55:30)
That's a

lot shorter. Yeah.

Uh huh. Is it all running or is it a triathlon? Okay.

Jill Bartholomew (55:35)
Right. Now it's a triathlon

Greg Hasler (55:39)
okay.

Jill Bartholomew (55:39)
and like the distances in triathlon space for those who like are used to the normal like sprint, Olympic, 70.3 and full, it's kind of a strange distance because like the run I think ends up being like 12 kilometers. But apparently it's 12 very good kilometers.

Sharon Hamilton (56:01)
12 kilometers at the end, that actually doesn't sound that bad. It would be like more than an half, significantly less than a 70 point whatever, like right? Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (56:04)
No, it doesn't.

Greg Hasler (56:05)
No, that's not very bad.

Jill Bartholomew (56:10)
Well, right. Yeah.

We're an Olympic, you know, Olympic is 10 K. Right. It's just a little bit more than Olympic, but it's much longer bike than an Olympic. the swim is a little bit longer than Olympic, but it's not like super long. I don't know off top my head what it is. No, no, no. It's in Lake, it starts at Lake Las Vegas.

Sharon Hamilton (56:15)
Yeah, it's just a little bit more than an Olympic. That's not so bad.

Greg Hasler (56:18)
Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (56:22)
⁓ is the swim as short as an Olympic? Because you could sell me on this, Jill.

Okay.

Greg Hasler (56:32)
But do you swim in a pool then in Vegas? Do you swim in a pool or do you go out to Lake the lake out there? Lake meter.

Okay, like Las Vegas. Okay.

Jill Bartholomew (56:39)
Yeah.

Yeah. It did one at Miami last year. You know, I don't think they did it this year. was, I was looking to see if they had that. was like, I'd sign up for that one. Cause the bike was entirely in the stadium. And I'm like, yeah, yeah. I'm like, that sounds fun. Well, it'd be like, it's, it's like, come on. It's triathlon. You know, it's like NASCAR on bikes.

Sharon Hamilton (56:53)
Mm-hmm.

that, my God, like lapse.

Greg Hasler (56:59)
⁓

Sharon Hamilton (57:01)
Mm-hmm.

I want to see you start doing the things that CDE from Peloton does, the track races. I could totally see you doing that. Uh-huh, yeah. I know you love her. I do. I know that. Yeah, Uh-huh. I know. Yeah, totally. That's her thing. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (57:14)
⁓ in the velodrome. I love her. I love her. I do. But that was her gig before she was a Peloton instructor. Although,

Greg Hasler (57:17)
Hahaha

Jill Bartholomew (57:28)
pre-COVID, I was working in Manhattan three days a week. And back then, you could basically just walk in and pick up a bike like any other spin studio.

Sharon Hamilton (57:32)
Yeah. did you get to go to some of her research? Yeah. ⁓

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (57:41)
I took so many of her classes live and that was one for like all 45 minutes to an hour long. Now they're all like, now everything, everything's like 20. like, I'm like, man, I have to stack like 500 to get my power bike. And you know, it's like, ⁓ she's from Downing town. So the same town, the same town I live in, I'm like, I'm like, that's cool. I think they lived in the lead. They, don't know if they.

Sharon Hamilton (57:44)
Okay.

Yeah, 20 minutes, I know. ⁓

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah!

Greg Hasler (58:06)
Yeah, yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (58:09)
I thought

she was from Pittsburgh. Maybe I'm just confused. Yeah, uh-huh, from Philly. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (58:11)
No, no, she's from, she's from Downing Town and

she and her husband for the longest time lived in the Lehigh Valley, which is, you know, like Allentown, Bethlehem. I think I saw that they're back in New York now, but I'm like, I like they're, they're like in this area. So it makes sense. Like the vela, there's a velodrome and I think it's Bethlehem. So it makes sense. Yeah. It makes sense that they would be in like that area.

Sharon Hamilton (58:18)
Mm.

Mm.

Mm.

⁓ so that's maybe where she got introduced to it. Uh-huh.

Yeah. I've taken one of her classes live, but that was after COVID when you had to like use run Disney registration skills to get in. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (58:45)
⁓ no, run Disney registra-

getting a bike at Peloton class these days live is, is much harder than run Disney registration.

Greg Hasler (58:48)
Wow.

Sharon Hamilton (58:51)
Yeah. Yeah.

I've done it a few times, but not very, very recently.

Jill Bartholomew (59:00)
I haven't tried. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (59:01)
In New York,

Sharon Hamilton (59:02)
Mm-hmm.

Greg Hasler (59:02)
you

went to New York and got into that. That's cool.

Jill Bartholomew (59:05)
Yeah.

Yeah. When they were in their old studio, which was much smaller, ⁓ before the explosion during COVID, ⁓ you basically could just walk in and get a bike more often than not. They built this big, huge new studio in Hudson Yards that opens during COVID. Yeah, yeah. Now, it's not as quaint. It's more like a production studio.

Sharon Hamilton (59:10)
Mm.

Yeah, that's where I've been. Yeah.

It is definitely

like a production studio. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (59:34)
Yeah, this was like,

you know, it's typical New York. It was in the basement of the building, a camera on a track in the ceiling and a couple, you know, kind of mounted on pillars and it was much more basic. And I don't know. Yeah. It felt like going to any other studio, but with a little bit more professionalism.

Sharon Hamilton (59:38)
Yeah.

Yeah, back in the day.

Nice.

Jill Bartholomew (59:57)
But yeah, now we want to open a business here that's kind of like spin for triathletes.

Sharon Hamilton (1:00:06)
Mm. So are they, are you going to make, are you going to make everybody be on rollers? Is that how that's going to work? People bring their bikes and you.

Jill Bartholomew (1:00:06)
So that's.

Greg Hasler (1:00:07)
and fill it.

Jill Bartholomew (1:00:13)
God,

we would need, if everybody was on rollers, we would need an ambulance. Yeah. No, no, no. Stationary bikes. Yeah. Yeah. No, think like stationary bikes and Zwift. Take the virtual group ride and make it a virtual group ride in person. Kind of thing. All right. So I think the topic was Disneyland and we keep getting off topic because, because we,

Sharon Hamilton (1:00:16)
Yes. Yeah, probably. For sure. You just need to have EMTs right there on site. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah.

⁓ huh. Yeah. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. There you go. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (1:00:40)
We're off topic easily.

Sharon Hamilton (1:00:41)
We talked about

it a little. Yeah. huh.

Jill Bartholomew (1:00:42)
Yeah, we did. We just, right.

Greg Hasler (1:00:43)
We did. We've all been to Disneyland.

Jill Bartholomew (1:00:45)
We've all been to Disney and, you know, we just don't sit down and talk all that often when we're not at Disney, but it's fun. So did you sign up for all three races, Sharon?

Sharon Hamilton (1:01:00)
For the disneyland no I sign up for Dumbo just Dumbo

Jill Bartholomew (1:01:02)
Or did

Greg Hasler (1:01:04)
Yeah,

Jill Bartholomew (1:01:05)
you skip? So did they?

Greg Hasler (1:01:05)
I signed up for Dumbo. You should go, Jill. You should go. I'm just telling you, you'll regret it if you don't go.

Sharon Hamilton (1:01:10)
huh.

Yeah. huh.

Jill Bartholomew (1:01:12)
I know. I know. Now I need to chase down a charity bit.

Sharon Hamilton (1:01:16)
Yeah, it's easy. Yeah, you got one.

Jill Bartholomew (1:01:17)
Yeah, but,

well, I'm raising this year on Ironman Foundation, which I need to start fundraising for them. But yeah, I did the math like for the most part and it kind of came out the same because like they cover some stuff that like, like the VIP stuff for the spectators that we'd pay for anyways. But, you know, back when I was, you know, working.

You know, corporate, was easy because, know, you make a charitable donation and the company you work for matches it, right? So you only had to make half. Now I'm like, you mean I have to do like actual fundraising now and find people who are willing to part with their own money so I can go do a raise. I'm like, that sounds so funny. First is like when it was, you know, the company that I worked for doing it.

Sharon Hamilton (1:01:50)
match it. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (1:01:51)
Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (1:02:03)
I

Jill Bartholomew (1:02:05)
But yes, I will be soliciting donations for that. Cause, you know, I like running for these charity for these charities. ⁓ although I haven't done Disney on it. John did, ⁓ last year. Yeah. Last year, ⁓ marathon weekend, he wasn't originally planning to go. was when we kind of first started, ⁓ being an item, I guess. And he ended up running, I think it was the 10 K that year. And then he ran all the princess races, which I thought was hysterical.

Sharon Hamilton (1:02:06)
That's

Jill Bartholomew (1:02:34)
like his first real Disney experience was at Princess. I tried to get him to wear a tutu. I bought him one, brought it down. He had it on. He's like, I can't run in this. Right, right. And then he gets out there and he's like, there's so many guys in dresses. I'm like, I'm like, it's okay. Everybody is letting their inner princess out at Princess weekend. It's okay.

Greg Hasler (1:02:35)
Was princess.

Sharon Hamilton (1:02:37)
Princess, yeah.

He's like, I'm sorry, this isn't happening. Yeah. ⁓

Greg Hasler (1:02:48)
I just couldn't do it. I get that.

Sharon Hamilton (1:02:56)
I you, you'd be fine.

Yeah.

Greg Hasler (1:03:03)
Yep, it's the Pink

Pony Club. It's the Pink Pony Club.

Jill Bartholomew (1:03:06)
Right and and it's in Florida so you know it can't be that it's in Florida, right? That's a statement these days So

Greg Hasler (1:03:09)
It's in Florida. Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (1:03:09)
Mm hmm.

There you go.

Greg Hasler (1:03:16)
But I think we'll miss Disneyland. mean, you know, like for me, it's nostalgic because it was my first coast to coast. did the Disney half. I did the half marathon at Disney world, which I heard about. They didn't have Dopey then even. And I heard about the goofy and I was like shocked. I was like, who could run a half marathon followed by a full marathon? Cause it was all I could do. I was still at that point in my life where I was learning to run and it was just.

Jill Bartholomew (1:03:18)
Do it.

Sharon Hamilton (1:03:19)
Mm-hmm.

I will.

Jill Bartholomew (1:03:23)
Hmm.

Yeah

Sharon Hamilton (1:03:45)
Okay.

Greg Hasler (1:03:46)
Unbelievable. And then it took me another, as I didn't go to Disneyland until September of that year. It took me that long to say, I think I can run again. I think I can. And I still remember, I still remember starting because you started over by the Disneyland Hotel way back when. this woman ran. Yes. And this woman ran. Exactly. I stayed at some other hotel on the other side. It was really awesome. Because you walked, walked, you walked.

Sharon Hamilton (1:03:50)
⁓ I can do another one.

Jill Bartholomew (1:03:51)
Hmm.

huh.

So that would be much more convenient than today.

Sharon Hamilton (1:04:07)
Only if you were staying at the Disneyland Hotel. Yeah, that's where I stay.

Greg Hasler (1:04:15)
You walked right to the start line and it was super easy. But I remember I was not, I wasn't in the a corral. Let's just say that. ⁓ And this woman ran up next to me and was like, you can do it. Exactly. That's what I like about it though, right? You see what it's like to run in all the corrals and there's so much difference in them. I don't know. It's good. Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (1:04:18)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (1:04:26)
death. We weren't always there. mean, you know.

Sharon Hamilton (1:04:30)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (1:04:37)
Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (1:04:37)
It's all fun.

Jill Bartholomew (1:04:40)
Yeah, that's why like,

Ashton started noticing this. You know, he's getting older and he started noticing at Florida, there's like corral envy. Like it's a real thing and it's a thing because, you know, they got the balloon ladies, but California has the balloon ladies too. And, you know, I think people, you know, they want that experience of like,

Sharon Hamilton (1:04:53)
Mm.

Greg Hasler (1:04:53)
Mm-hmm.

Sharon Hamilton (1:04:56)
Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (1:05:09)
You know, not being so stressed out about getting swept while still being able to like get the pictures they want. But of course, like the further back you are, the longer the lines are going to be. And even for like, you know, if you're like in a, and like, you know, taking your time, like sharing you and I experiences, right? We, weren't like hauling, you know, at springtime surprise, we're kind of like, eh, it's kind of a fun run. And like the lines got kind of long at some of those.

Sharon Hamilton (1:05:21)
.

Greg Hasler (1:05:22)
Mm-hmm.

Sharon Hamilton (1:05:29)
Mm-hmm.

⁓

Jill Bartholomew (1:05:39)
⁓ but like for the back of the Packers, know, what we saw is

Sharon Hamilton (1:05:42)
my God.

Jill Bartholomew (1:05:42)
like five minute lines or three minute lines. They saw it as like 40 minute lines or an hour line.

Greg Hasler (1:05:47)
Yeah. I can't even think about it. Exactly. Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (1:05:47)
blows my mind when I did that five. We when

Jill Bartholomew (1:05:49)
Yeah. Right.

Sharon Hamilton (1:05:52)
I walked that 5k from D with my daughter and a couple of my friends and it was literally like I could not even fathom like we saw this. It must have gone through a line for some character went through like three countries like just this huge I was like it's going to take those people an hour to get through that line like that's crazy. Yeah. ⁓

Jill Bartholomew (1:06:11)
that's exactly, exactly. Exactly. And,

Greg Hasler (1:06:13)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (1:06:14)
you know, people get swept because like they want, they have to choose between the character picture and getting swept. And, you know, if you're going to wait an hour in a line for a picture, then like, we're getting, we're getting swept.

Sharon Hamilton (1:06:18)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

And I always like the run pictures better

anyway, the ones that they take of you running. The character pictures aren't even that good. Yeah. The lighting isn't great. You look like crap because you've been running, you know? you're covered in Gatorade and Gatorade goo on your pants, you know, and you're like, hey, Mickey.

Jill Bartholomew (1:06:31)
I do too. I do do too.

Greg Hasler (1:06:35)
They're dark, they're always dark or something's wrong or yeah. You two look like you have Gatorade all over you. You have Gatorade all over you. you got white

Jill Bartholomew (1:06:39)
Yeah.

I will say...

Greg Hasler (1:06:50)
gels on your black pants.

Sharon Hamilton (1:06:52)
Right. Uh-huh. Mm. Mm. Or better. Way better.

Jill Bartholomew (1:06:53)
Hey now, I will say, I think that the on-course photographers at Florida, I think even over the last

Greg Hasler (1:07:02)
are better.

Jill Bartholomew (1:07:04)
two years, like they have gotten substantially better.

Sharon Hamilton (1:07:09)
Yeah, the Disneyland ones aren't, they're not as good.

Jill Bartholomew (1:07:11)
They're less experienced. Give them another decade of wait, we're gonna pause. Right, right, right, right. Well, that's the thing, know, like the photographers, you know, they're not used to taking like, I mean, unless they're on the side, like an event photographer or something, you know, they're used to taking portraits, know, stills in the park. And then they're asked to do these, because it's the same people.

Sharon Hamilton (1:07:14)
Yeah, you don't get nearly as many. except for on pause. ⁓ Except for on pause. Yeah. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (1:07:19)
Yeah, alright. Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (1:07:31)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

It's amazing

we can do it, yeah. ⁓

Jill Bartholomew (1:07:41)
Right. And we're like the ones in Florida,

it's the same ones race after race. And they have, you know, five, you know, opportunities a year. Cause there's also the, the, the cast member of 5k they do. So they've got, there's. Right. Right. Yeah. So, so they, get some practice.

Sharon Hamilton (1:07:53)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Greg Hasler (1:07:55)
five plus three plus three or four times right so it's like

up to fifteen you know

Sharon Hamilton (1:08:01)
Yeah.

Yeah, but I think you probably get better ones of you will you definitely get better ones of those if you're an earlier crowd too, because there's less people around you. And so like, you'll get like four photos from the same angle or the same time because everybody gets you versus if you're back in the back, then it's they're trying to get 30 people are going across at the same time. Yeah. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (1:08:04)
Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (1:08:11)
yeah.

Yeah, so anyways, so

back to the the thing with Ashen. So we were staying at ⁓ Animal Kingdom Lodge, we, excuse me, haven't stayed there in a while. And yeah, that was the first DVC we bought.

So anyways, you know, so we're staying at Animal Kingdom Lodge and you know, from the 10-miler, you know, we went back, showered, changed, got breakfast and then headed out to go to the park. And as we're heading out,

people are still flowing in from the race, right? Because, know, it's, yeah, like for us, it's only 10 miles, like, come on. And, you know, for a lot of people, like, this is the longest distance they've ever run. And this lady, you know, she's still in her outfit. She's got her bibs to launch, you know, dried sweat on her. And, you know, Ashen's got his medal around her neck. And she looks at him she's like,

Sharon Hamilton (1:08:57)
yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that always happens. Yeah. Mm-hmm. ⁓

Greg Hasler (1:08:58)
yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (1:09:21)
what crowd you run in? And he's like, A. And she's like, lucky. And then like does an about face and walks off. you know, he's 15. So he's like, you know, in that spot where he's partially an adult and partially still a kid. And he's like, WTF, man.

Greg Hasler (1:09:42)
Yeah. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (1:09:43)
But it's like, in the park, we've all

had that where someone will be talking to you. And then they're like, well, how did you do? I'm like, I did all right. And they're like, what does all right mean? What crowd? I'm like, A. And that's the end of the conversation. I mean, you had to have explained that.

Sharon Hamilton (1:09:46)
⁓

Yeah.

Greg Hasler (1:10:01)
⁓ Or they're like, you're so serious, right? You're so serious. You know, this is for fun. And I'm like, yeah, it's for fun, but you're in a corral because you run other races. It's not because you're not having fun.

Sharon Hamilton (1:10:04)
Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (1:10:05)
Yeah.

Yeah, well, and like that whole like,

Sharon Hamilton (1:10:10)
Yeah, basically.

Jill Bartholomew (1:10:13)
don't PR at Disney. It kind of bugs me a bit. It's like, I understand the sentiment, but also like, there's a lot of people who BQ at Disney. know, you know, a lot of people do PR. Couple of our friends, yeah. One on purpose and one just because she felt like it. I know, right? I'm like...

Greg Hasler (1:10:15)
You

Sharon Hamilton (1:10:27)
Couple of our friends.

Greg Hasler (1:10:28)
some of our friends.

Sharon Hamilton (1:10:32)
because she's just that fast.

Greg Hasler (1:10:36)
Yeah. ⁓

Jill Bartholomew (1:10:38)
Yeah, I said to my coach the other day, like, I'd love to run Boston. said, but I keep being like a couple minutes off of a PQ. And I'm like, I don't know that I have it in me to put the level of focus to like drop triathlon for a season and just be like, let's go PQ. I'm not naturally a fast runner. Takes effort.

Sharon Hamilton (1:10:55)
and

Greg Hasler (1:10:58)
Mm-mm.

Sharon Hamilton (1:10:58)
That

Boston's overrated. That's my humble opinion.

Jill Bartholomew (1:11:03)
Yeah, I loved it too.

Greg Hasler (1:11:04)
Having done it,

having done it though, you've got that off your bucket list.

Sharon Hamilton (1:11:07)
Yeah,

Jill Bartholomew (1:11:08)
Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (1:11:08)
that's true. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (1:11:09)
I mean, you know, it could be Q, might be Q, or we could just wait until like the standard drops to what we're capable of running when we're like 85. Yeah. Yeah. You, you if you trained more, you'd be faster than me.

Greg Hasler (1:11:14)
I couldn't.

Sharon Hamilton (1:11:20)
When we're 70, Jill, you and me, we're going to go run Boston.

Uh-huh. Yeah.

Maybe. I don't know. Yeah. You definitely put a lot more miles on your legs than I do. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (1:11:35)
I do, I do. But yeah, I mean, that's the response to that kind of comments. Like, well,

yeah, my training plan is like 16 plus hours a week. How many hours do you put in?

Sharon Hamilton (1:11:47)
Well, but it's also funny because when you go to, when I, the first time I was in A Corral was like my, I guess it was the first time I had put in a ⁓ Proof of Time because I had only just started running when I started at Run Disney. So like I was in C or whatever I had put for the first, and the first time I put in a Proof of Time, I was like, A? What? I'm not that fast. I was like, that puts me in A? Like, okay. You know, because if you go to like,

Jill Bartholomew (1:12:01)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (1:12:14)
I do other races that have proof of times and I'm not fast enough to be in the front of those races because they have pros in them. They have people who are running four minute miles. Okay, I'm not doing that. So it's sort of like,

Jill Bartholomew (1:12:17)
Yes.

Greg Hasler (1:12:21)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (1:12:27)
Yes. I think for- ⁓

Last time I looked, I was like just inside the seated. Like if I wanted it, I could get a seated entry at most of the Philly races. ⁓ But also slow enough that I don't want to. Cause I'm like, I'm like that implies that that like you actually need to perform on that day. And I'm like, you know, that's, that's a level of pressure that I don't want.

Sharon Hamilton (1:12:48)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Greg Hasler (1:12:59)
That's

a lot. That's a lot of pressure.

Sharon Hamilton (1:13:00)
Uh-uh.

Jill Bartholomew (1:13:01)
Yeah. Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (1:13:02)
Uh-uh.

Jill Bartholomew (1:13:03)
Yeah. The, the seated is like top 50 or top 100 proof of times or something like that. But it's like, yeah, you end up in the same corral with the folks who are going to run a 49 minute, 10 mile or it's like, no, no, that's not me. Nope. I don't, it's like, it's not me. And I don't even want to, you know?

Sharon Hamilton (1:13:19)
No, thanks.

Greg Hasler (1:13:20)
Nope, not me.

Sharon Hamilton (1:13:23)
It's okay. Don't need to do that. huh. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, not so much. I had the weirdest experience that 10K I did last weekend because they started a 5K 10 minutes before they started the 10K and it was the same course. And I was actually, it was weird. And I was actually, it should have been the other way around. And I was, I was actually racing for time. So I was really trying to run, but these 5K people were like,

Jill Bartholomew (1:13:30)
Ciao.

of that stream. Usually it's the other way around.

Sharon Hamilton (1:13:52)
I'm talking the Disney, if this had been a race that was a run Disney race and there had been a Facebook group, it would have been on fire because it was literally like, I'm running and there's like 12 people. There's a controller. There's like a dog. I mean, it was like the 5k, it was the back of the 5k that was there when we're trying to run through. It was literally like being in Mario Kart. I'm like, okay, I'm trying to get really people. It was the worst.

Greg Hasler (1:14:10)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (1:14:11)
Bye.

You know, it's funny.

It's funny you say that, you know. So I have a love hate relationship with Facebook, but one of the things I love about it is like anybody can create a group, right? And, you know, so as a result, there's a ton of Disney groups and a ton of random, right? And I'm in probably 30 or 40 run Disney groups on Facebook, but there's like three or four that are really good.

Greg Hasler (1:14:21)
Uh-huh.

Sharon Hamilton (1:14:28)
Yeah.

tons of them.

Jill Bartholomew (1:14:44)
Most of them tied to podcasts, but a few of them not. And there's a few like, like run Disney, you know, celebrities, right? Because, you know, they created the group 10 years ago and so everybody knows them. But, you know, the ones around like Princess, especially, the drama that happens in some of them, it's like, you know, you have,

Greg Hasler (1:15:06)
Hahaha

Sharon Hamilton (1:15:11)
my God.

Jill Bartholomew (1:15:14)
But you have both ends. You have people who have done like a million of them. And then you have people who like, this is their first one. And like the questions that they're asking are mostly legitimate questions. And then you've got like the folks who've done a million of them, you know, but it's not like your normal Facebook group where like what happens in a normal Facebook group, right? Someone asks a stupid question. And the very first N400 response is use the search function, right?

Sharon Hamilton (1:15:41)
Right,

right, yeah. Not usually.

Jill Bartholomew (1:15:41)
You don't see that in the run Disney groups, right?

Greg Hasler (1:15:41)
Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (1:15:44)
Instead, you see all of the posts about either how stupid that person is or how awful run Disney is, right? Or how awful the eight corral runners are or something else. It's like, remember what two years ago when was one sweeping, you remember sweeping was a bit more lax until about two years ago.

Sharon Hamilton (1:15:54)
Lots of that.

Greg Hasler (1:15:58)
Yes.

Jill Bartholomew (1:16:07)
And it got more serious. like they used to say, you know, people used to say one, like on the marathon, once you made it to Hollywood studios, as long as you kept moving, that you would be, you would be allowed to finish. That's no longer the case. Right now they will sweep you up until mile 26.0, which I personally think is a little unfair to someone like when you're in sight of the finish line, like, like let them finish, you know? Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (1:16:16)
Yeah, they're not gonna sweep you.

Greg Hasler (1:16:29)
Yeah, that's a little harsh.

Sharon Hamilton (1:16:31)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, that's ridiculous.

Jill Bartholomew (1:16:37)
but that year after the marathon, there was a lot of comments that were like, corral F should start before corral A. And yeah, you see it resurface every once in a while, but it was like, you it's like, that's, that's actually dangerous for that.

Sharon Hamilton (1:16:46)
yeah, that would kill people.

huh.

Well, and that's,

Greg Hasler (1:16:56)
Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (1:16:58)
but that's what happens in the 10 K and the five K two, because it's not, there is no proof of time. So you have like five year olds at the a corral of the 10 K.

Jill Bartholomew (1:17:02)
Oh, it is. is.

Yeah. And Disney, you know, they won't, they won't change the 5k. Sometimes you can talk them into changing the 10k. You know, like, like Ashton once he got like C or B or something. And I went up and I'm like, Hey, uh, he's expected to be in the top three for this race. We need to put him in a, and they did.

Sharon Hamilton (1:17:12)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (1:17:30)
But, you know, he also had like a lot of, you know, he had proof of time for the, for the half marathon and they're like, okay, we see it, you know, we'll make the gym. But I've also seen them be like, yeah, we're not making any changes for the 10 K. So like that, you know, that's, think more of an exception, but, but yeah, it's like the race that you were just describing reminded me of those, those posts. Cause I'm like, that's exactly the position they put you guys in.

Sharon Hamilton (1:17:40)
Yeah.

They did.

It was comical.

Jill Bartholomew (1:17:58)
Like the pointy end of the

10K is having to go through and around, but more likely over the back end of the 5K, which is not fair to either group.

Sharon Hamilton (1:18:07)
or the 5k?

No, I did feel that I actually did like hit somebody. mean, didn't like knock her over. I like had because you know, you do it because you're just trying to dip and dodge. And I'm like, my God. I mean, it was literally like these people are walking slow six across and I'm like busting through.

Greg Hasler (1:18:10)
Mm-mm.

Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (1:18:18)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Well, now here's the thing. So like that, that's, that's

the flip side of all these run Disney groups existing and is I've seen people get called out by name or bib number who misbehaved on course. I'm like, I don't know about that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know that that's right either.

Sharon Hamilton (1:18:42)
Yeah.

Greg Hasler (1:18:43)
⁓ yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (1:18:45)
Yeah, it's messed up.

Greg Hasler (1:18:47)
That's a lot.

Sharon Hamilton (1:18:48)
I saw that about the people who were skipping the course. I saw that drama after Marathon Weekend. It was people at the back who were allowed, the balloon ladies or whatever, the sweepers were having them cut the course so that they could finish. Who cares? But all these people were like, that's not fair. They're not using it to get into Boston. Whatever. They get their medal anyway. Let the people finish.

Jill Bartholomew (1:18:54)
I'm sorry. There's a cut.

you

Greg Hasler (1:19:11)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (1:19:12)
Yeah, and there's,

I always look forward to Brian Davis's analysis. ⁓ Yeah, he identifies all the bibs that appear to have got the chorus because they said.

Sharon Hamilton (1:19:17)
⁓ yeah, because he finds all the ones that cut the chorus. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (1:19:25)
Yes.

Sharon Hamilton (1:19:25)
I know. I'm like,

does he have a job? Can you imagine how much time that takes?

Jill Bartholomew (1:19:29)
I know, I know. Yeah,

and as a club or a Disney person, in platinum, ⁓ as he refers to them, the mice with benefits, I give him my bib numbers because we're in the advanced, ⁓ the platinum allows you to get into B without proof of time.

Greg Hasler (1:19:57)
Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (1:19:58)
but I have proof of time, which gets me A corral So I gave him my bib number because he's trying to kind of put a lasso around who the platinum people are trying to analyze like, what's the effect that platinum has? Yeah, like what's the effect that platinum has on this seeding Because I mean, you know, like there's a, I think,

Sharon Hamilton (1:20:10)
Mm.

⁓ like who are the slow people in B basically? Yeah, yeah. Uh-huh.

Because

it would move people from B to C who would otherwise be in B. ⁓

Jill Bartholomew (1:20:30)
Or worse, right? I know someone

who, we mutually know someone who would qualify probably for D, at least in Dopey, but runs from A. know, Clubber and Disney got some in B. Right? So it's like, I think there's this general feeling that's not really fact-based, but this general feeling that this platinum group is

you know, causing all these people to not get into B or to get in, you know, not get in the crowd that they think or causing, causing problems. And the reality is like, Club runDisney is not that big. Right.

Sharon Hamilton (1:21:11)
No, especially not

platinum. That's why nobody can get in. Yeah, it's not that big. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (1:21:12)
It's not that big.

Jill Bartholomew (1:21:13)
Right, right. It's limited.

Yeah, I think he had looked at it the first year it came out and said, you know, it appeared to be like 0.1 % of the field, which feels about right. And it's like, what's the effect that has? But still, like, you you still hear people who are like, oh, those clever and Disney people, they're not where they belong.

Sharon Hamilton (1:21:23)
It's not many.

Greg Hasler (1:21:24)
That's not very many.

Sharon Hamilton (1:21:26)
No, no.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Well, and I also think people don't know. Like, people just talk, you know what mean? Like, they don't know the details. They're like, that bumps you up to what corral? And it bumps everybody. Like, people don't do their research necessarily. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (1:21:38)
No. ⁓

Greg Hasler (1:21:40)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (1:21:44)
Well, and that's the kind of the downside of the internet, is like,

yeah, there's people, you know, say what they feel is true, but may not be. And it gets repeated and repeated. And then it becomes folklore, right?

Greg Hasler (1:21:54)
Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (1:21:56)
And there's no fact checking, so reality doesn't exist. It's Yeah.

Mm hmm. Yeah, totally.

Jill Bartholomew (1:22:05)
we started talking about, you know, how running the half marathon in Anaheim is running through the city and how it's different. And I keep like thinking back to that and I'm like, it is more like a local race. It's, it's like the best local race in the world. Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (1:22:12)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Totally.

Greg Hasler (1:22:21)
It is so much like it. Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (1:22:25)
It's the best of both worlds. You get to run through

all the Disney parks and then have a local race in Anaheim. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (1:22:30)
Right. And like the,

the, the advantage of that is it's so much more spectator friendly. I don't know what the, the, what it was like at, at, um, Halloween, but you know, when we did Dumbo last year, some of the signs out on the course were awesome. Right. And the, the guy dressed up as Mandalorian, like this is supposed to be Star Wars.

Sharon Hamilton (1:22:37)
huh.

yeah,

Greg Hasler (1:22:49)
Yes.

Sharon Hamilton (1:22:55)
Mm hmm.

Yeah, yeah. They were like, they were like sketchy character meets like people random people from Anaheim that put out like, you'd like to like the characters in Times Square that you see that are like shady like they end up on the side of the room. It's funny. huh. Like Elmo's there. Like sketchy Elmo. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (1:22:57)
Yes.

Jill Bartholomew (1:23:06)
Yes.

Greg Hasler (1:23:07)
Yes.

Elmo, you saw Elmo on the side of the road.

Jill Bartholomew (1:23:13)
and that's

Greg Hasler (1:23:15)
In the up house, think there was the house somebody built that looked like that was, yeah. mean, clever. mean, I think the people that live there are very clever. So.

Sharon Hamilton (1:23:17)
Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (1:23:25)
Well, they're used to it too, like it's right across the street.

Sharon Hamilton (1:23:26)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right.

Jill Bartholomew (1:23:29)
I don't know. When we got there, like that was kind of a strange thing for me. So we stayed at the Disneyland hotel. Um, cause yeah, it was our first time there and we're like, all right, we're gonna stay on property. Cause you know, coming, coming from Disney world and it's like, you don't know any different. And you know, went out for a run and I'm like, I'm like, oh no, there is.

Greg Hasler (1:23:46)
Mm-hmm.

Sharon Hamilton (1:23:51)
There's nowhere to run.

Greg Hasler (1:23:54)
It's sketchy.

Sharon Hamilton (1:23:54)
It's

Jill Bartholomew (1:23:54)
I'm

like, didn't feel it was that bad. ⁓ But I've run in Orlando before, which I think is sketchy too.

Sharon Hamilton (1:23:56)
sketchy, yeah.

⁓ I didn't like that. Yeah, there you go.

Greg Hasler (1:24:04)
Did you go

down to Kitella? You ran down to Kitella Avenue and you didn't think it was sketchy? Oof.

Sharon Hamilton (1:24:05)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (1:24:07)
I have no idea, you could

look it up on the internet. We stayed in Disneyland and I made like the big square in Alpejo, you know? Yeah, it's like you run around the park. And I'm like, yeah, the first time I'm like, it's so small. We're like in Florida, we run an entire marathon on property.

Sharon Hamilton (1:24:15)
Bye

I've done that. It's like a three mile loop around the parks. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (1:24:19)
Around, Yeah, outside

of the park.

property.

Jill Bartholomew (1:24:35)
And

there you run like a 5K and you've run completely around the circumference of the property. So it's like, well, given that it's impressive that they get a 10K inside that space.

Sharon Hamilton (1:24:38)
You've run around the entire thing. Yeah, that's true.

Yeah. Yeah.

Well, that's even better because they do, but they do it by you go through every single land. It's not like you just run through. I mean, you run through everything in Disneyland and California Adventure. You get to go through everything. It's really cool. ⁓

Jill Bartholomew (1:24:57)
You run through everything. I tell you, you know, there's that backstage

section that you're running, ⁓ kind of underneath the monorail line and like they have it lit up with like pretty lights and whatnot, but it goes down and then up because like there's a road that is going under that. Yeah, that's like my least favorite part.

Greg Hasler (1:25:12)
Mm-mm.

Sharon Hamilton (1:25:22)
Yeah, the tunnel thing. Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (1:25:26)
of the races

at Disneyland because that's actually quite a steep hill. And, you we ran through it on all three races or no, two of the three races and both times, you know, I saw, you know, the wheelchair guys like stuck on that.

Sharon Hamilton (1:25:32)
Yeah, it is a grade.

Greg Hasler (1:25:34)
Yeah.

Yep.

Sharon Hamilton (1:25:47)
stuck.

Jill Bartholomew (1:25:48)
So, uh, Chattanooga 70.3 is next weekend. And it's a redemption race for me because last year that's the one that my chain popped on at like mile 21, the chain broke and I sat there for an hour and a half on the side of the road watching the fast and then the less fast and then the slow people go by.

Sharon Hamilton (1:26:09)
Did you eventually get it fixed? Did somebody come help you or did you? Cause why didn't you just leave? Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (1:26:12)
⁓

It took 90 minutes and ⁓ the sag guy eventually made it to me. There had been like, he told me he was like 40 people called this in, but there apparently there was like 12 people who needed help changing their tire. And I'm like, you know, as a triathlete, like there's some basic skills you need changing your tires. One of them, changing your inner tube.

Sharon Hamilton (1:26:18)
huh.

Okay.

Right.

energies.

Greg Hasler (1:26:39)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (1:26:40)
But yeah, it took him like, it took him like three minutes, took him like, Oh, come on. Still practice is not the hard. Uh, took him like three minutes and I was back on the road and it's like, if only I had that, that like, carry so many tools with me and I, I'm like, yeah, yeah, it never crossed my mind that I would need a chain breaker. And I'm like, he's like, you know, you're rich.

Sharon Hamilton (1:26:41)
You just ruled me out, Jill, I'm out.

You didn't have the one to fix your chain.

No.

Greg Hasler (1:27:05)
No, that one.

Jill Bartholomew (1:27:07)
Yeah. He was like, you know, you really should call it. He's like, you're really close to the cutoff at this point. And in the back of my head, I'm like, well, if you hadn't taken so damn long to get here, I wouldn't be. And so, you know, I convinced him to take, you know, two links out, out of the chain. He's like, well, you know, you can only use half the cassette. I'm like, that's fine. I only need two gears on this course. I'm like, I only need two gears. ⁓ and I ended up getting it done and.

Sharon Hamilton (1:27:13)
or like challenge accepted.

Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (1:27:36)
I PR'd taking that 90 minute snooze out, I PR'd my bike, and I still got it done in under six hours.

Greg Hasler (1:27:43)
That's good. Wow.

Jill Bartholomew (1:27:44)
That was very,

Sharon Hamilton (1:27:44)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (1:27:45)
it was very good. ⁓ I pissed a few people off on the bike. I pissed a few people off on the run. Cause on the run, I think I ran like mine. I was catching up.

Sharon Hamilton (1:27:50)
Mm-hmm. Well, because you were catching, like you were going past a bunch

Greg Hasler (1:27:55)
You were

full of adrenaline too. mean, you were like. ⁓

Sharon Hamilton (1:27:55)
of people.

Jill Bartholomew (1:27:57)
⁓ at

Sharon Hamilton (1:27:58)
Well, and you were passing all these people who were slower

than you. that's,

Jill Bartholomew (1:28:01)
that point, it's the, I'm angry. Yeah. It's like the, it is like this week. Well, it's like this past weekend. I don't think I told you guys. Yeah, I did. I, you probably saw my Facebook post. did a time trial race. I ended up winning my division by six seconds, but I actually won it by about five minutes. ⁓

because I made a wrong turn. So I actually didn't. So this is a classic case of like being the lead, being in the lead in any race is not always a good thing. was, it was a two lap race as 28 miles. At the end of the first lap, I was the lead bike. The flagger that is supposed to tell us where the turn was, wasn't ready for the lead bike.

Sharon Hamilton (1:28:28)
Oops.

Jill Bartholomew (1:28:53)
didn't expect bikes yet. And that point, you know, I had started like in the middle is a time trial. So you start like every 30 seconds apart. And so I had started like, I don't know, um, five or six minutes back from the lead bike. And I ended up passing them like, you know, probably around like mile 12 or something. And, you know, so I ended up going down like a half mile, three quarter mile. And I'm like,

Greg Hasler (1:28:56)
Meh.

Jill Bartholomew (1:29:20)
there should be bikes heading in the opposite direction and there were no more bikes. And because this section of the course, it was kind of coming into like the start and there was a second race that was behind us. So there should have still been those bikes coming out and there was no one. And I turned around and looked back and

Sharon Hamilton (1:29:24)
Okay.

Jill Bartholomew (1:29:38)
No, what nobody was behind me. I like shit. So I turned around. So the rest of the race was exactly the same as Chattanooga. was it was that like rage. It was like it was like the rage. Yeah, it's like rage cycling.

Greg Hasler (1:29:39)
No!

Oops.

Sharon Hamilton (1:29:51)
you're like passing people. Yeah.

Greg Hasler (1:29:55)
Yes.

Yeah, like they let me down. I'm going to show him. You know what I mean? Because it's somebody it's not your fault. It's not your fault though.

Sharon Hamilton (1:29:58)
Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (1:30:00)
Well, well, and the, the, girl, well,

Sharon Hamilton (1:30:00)
Mm-hmm.

Mm hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (1:30:05)
well, I mean, it is because like, as the athlete, you're supposed to know the course, but yeah, I agree. I'm like, where was the flag? Where was the flag or where was the signs? And, you know, it's, it's funny because, know, the, girl that, came in second, you know, she and I know each other. Uh, she's another triathlon coach and, know,

Sharon Hamilton (1:30:05)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Greg Hasler (1:30:16)
Yeah. Yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (1:30:17)
Yeah.

Jill Bartholomew (1:30:30)
I said to her, I'm like, you feel like prey the whole second lap? And she's like, knew. She's like, I saw you not make the turn. And I knew that you're going to be hunting me down. And she had on these bright safety green booties on. So I could actually pick her out. Yeah, I could pick her out from a distance because I could see that. And.

Sharon Hamilton (1:30:35)
Yeah.

Hahaha

Greg Hasler (1:30:43)
Ha ha ha.

Sharon Hamilton (1:30:50)
Taste the green.

Greg Hasler (1:30:51)
Stick her out, yeah.

Sharon Hamilton (1:30:54)
Yeah.

Greg Hasler (1:30:56)
Yep.

Jill Bartholomew (1:30:56)
Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, is making making progress, making progress. And then there'd be a turn. I'm like, where'd she go? Where'd she go? Yeah, yeah. So that was that was my weekend. So, yeah.

Greg Hasler (1:31:08)
You

are a competitor, Jill, you're a competitor. You're like.

Sharon Hamilton (1:31:10)
Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (1:31:10)
I'm

not very competitive.

Greg Hasler (1:31:13)
You are, no, not at all. Maybe you're a hunter. I don't know what you are, but.

Jill Bartholomew (1:31:18)
Yeah, no, I have- I don't have a competitive bone in my body, I don't know why I forgot to do that.

Sharon Hamilton (1:31:19)
No, I don't know what you're talking

about. I'm totally not competitive at all.

Greg Hasler (1:31:22)
No, yeah, exactly. I finished first. I finished first. mean, you know that that's for the people that aren't competitive We're just talking about Disneyland. So yeah Yeah Okay, okay

Jill Bartholomew (1:31:28)
Yeah, we're just talking about rage cycling.

Sharon Hamilton (1:31:33)
Rage cycling, yes exactly. ⁓

Jill Bartholomew (1:31:37)
I don't know

if that was a term, but it is now.

Greg Hasler (1:31:40)
It is now. Yeah, it's like a late

onset. It's like a onset runner swimmer, right?

Sharon Hamilton (1:31:45)
Right, there

Jill Bartholomew (1:31:45)
⁓

Sharon Hamilton (1:31:45)
you go. Adult on set.

Jill Bartholomew (1:31:45)
Adults on set. All right. So Nancy is sending out a group text. ⁓ So Nancy, if you listen to the podcasts this far, we missed you. We're sorry you weren't able to join. And we're going to get it figured out for you next time. ⁓ a prerequisite is you need internet.

Greg Hasler (1:31:47)
Adult onset, adult onset, yes.

Sharon Hamilton (1:31:58)
you.

Greg Hasler (1:31:58)
You

Yes.

Sharon Hamilton (1:32:06)
Just, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Greg Hasler (1:32:11)
Yes, we missed you.

Jill Bartholomew (1:32:12)
We miss you. right. So more of the story is you guys are doing are doing Disneyland and you have

talked me into tracking down a charity, babe. ⁓ man. Another race, another race. ⁓ but it'll be fun. ⁓ hopefully they have an, a cool, neat metal next year instead of the suitcase.

Sharon Hamilton (1:32:23)
Do it.

Greg Hasler (1:32:24)
Do it.

Sharon Hamilton (1:32:26)
huh.

⁓ huh.

Mm-hmm.

Greg Hasler (1:32:36)
I hope so.

And some good, yeah, I hope they have some good swag to buy.

Sharon Hamilton (1:32:38)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Jill Bartholomew (1:32:40)
I'll tell you, I was so disappointed last

year in that medal. was like, I was like, cause they hyped it up. They're like, if you do dope in you get like this super special medal. And then that's, that's the one they chose to give us. was like, I was like, really, really. But I mean, it kind of makes sense, but whoever, um, was in charge of approving that shouldn't have.

Sharon Hamilton (1:32:47)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

huh. huh.

Mm-hmm.

Greg Hasler (1:33:04)
Yeah, they have better. They have better.

Jill Bartholomew (1:33:04)
But anyways,

yeah, yeah. I'm like, for a company that's entire business is media, you would think they could do better. So anyways, thank you guys so much for spending the last hour and 42 minutes with me talking about ⁓ run Disney, Disney races. We've talked about multiple marathons and we ventured into triathlon and.

Sharon Hamilton (1:33:07)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

Jill Bartholomew (1:33:32)
we've entered into making fun of me. So, that's always a good day, I guess. Yes. ⁓ and, Greg made fun of himself, so I didn't have to do it, but hydrate.

Greg Hasler (1:33:36)
Yeah, exactly.

Sharon Hamilton (1:33:36)
Always a good time.

Greg Hasler (1:33:41)
Yeah.

I know my weaknesses. My kryptonite. Hydration's my kryptonite.

Jill Bartholomew (1:33:48)
Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. All right. So again, thank you very much for coming on. I truly appreciate it. And for our listeners, stay tuned next week for episode seven. ⁓ Both episodes will come out on Thursdays. We're starting to get onto a cadence of releasing every Thursday. So thank you all and I'll talk to you later.

Sharon Hamilton (1:33:49)
Mm-hmm.